So my username on reddit was u/IAmUser1234567 I had 17k+ Karma, i didn’t do anything they just banned my account. Now i guess they have created a digital fingerprint or marked my ip address, because if i create a new account it gets banned almost instantly.

I am loving lemmy(using Voyager on my android phone) so much. Reddit anyways now just contains shity cringe content, it is becoming like insta, I am happy to join lemmy family :)

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    Probably some sort of AI-driven auto moderation to cut costs at the expense of their users. Sorry that happened to you but glad you found your way here. I was one of seemingly few uses who actually left permanently after they killed the API after ~10 years of daily use. It’s only gotten much much worse since then while Lemmy and Piefed keep getting better.

    Check out Blorp and Voyager on mobile, and Photon on PC.

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      I was one of seemingly few uses who actually left permanently after they killed the API

      You and me both! I left and never went back and it’s been one of the best decisions I ever made.

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          You don’t replace them. You just deal with the lack of them. As well as the lack of super interesting content and niche contributors (i.e.: “Geologist here!” and so on).

          I’d like to think that one day the Fediverse attains that level of adoption but it seems the only “free” protocols that attain that is podcasts. But that was created like 20 years ago and a large portion of so-called podcasts (that are more like just video roundtables or interviews) aren’t even distributed at all anymore. So as a society we are moving in the opposite direction.

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              Yeah dude. We live in a world where very few people care at all about personal freedoms or getting fucked. That’s just the way it is.

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              Yeah fam u.u i feel ya…

              Hard times–and it’s not even just reddit.

              The things we once took for granted are now associated with new hardship because profit for Party A requires suffering for Party B.

              Every new loss I encounter, I no longer have the energy to get upset. I just resign myself. “Oh well. That figures. Just gotta accept it and adjust.”

              It’s weird how I’m less emotionally volatile and vulnerable than I had ever been in prior stages of my life despite the world having become distinctly worse since then. But … getting upset takes energy; i have no energy to spare.

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      I was one of seemingly few uses who actually left permanently after they killed the API after ~10 years of daily use.

      Same, 11+ years. 🫡 The more time goes on the prouder I am of leaving as soon as I did. Seems like it very quickly turned into a much worse place.

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        I also left after the api drama after 9 years and many thousands of comments.

        I’m happy with my move to lemmy. There are some rough areas in the tech and definitely some personalities to watch out. But I think the experience is good

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          Nice! 🤝

          Yeah, I’m happy to work with/around the kinks and bug report when I can if I run into weirdness.

          And yeah, some weirdos are inevitably on here as well, I’ve already had the displeasure of running into several of them. I tag them and make sure I don’t interact after that.

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          it was downhill when they allow propaganda bots to flood the site from '18, one of the first purges of the time was around that time.

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        Not sure what you mean to imply here? I’m met with a page that says the user deleted their account. Couldn’t that have happened after they got banned?

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            it used to, but now since its mostly AI driven bans, or shadowban. for sitewide ban they just give a generic Ai generated response, usually goes like this : “your account was banned for these violations(s). see the tos”, it doesnt tell the reason for the ban anymore, thats when you know its AI generated. shadowban wont tell you are banned, you only find out once you stop getting responses from people(like you been commenting for a few days but nobody responds") , they have been using that so liberally because it doesnt tip of potential spammers, and users, plus it obfuscate thier reasons for banning you.

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          reddit keeps tabs on all accounts they banned, even if they are deleted, its just in case you try to create new ones, they refer to the old ones. Also i noticed some deleted accounts doesnt erase all your comments too.

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              I mean, you can say that all you want, but I cannot log into mine. I’m not talking one sub ban, or a temp one , but an admin level site wide permaban. And all related accounts also shut down.

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            You still have full access to your account information. You just can’t participate in anything. Reddit has a fingerprint on me so any new account I make is banned with a few hours (until I get a new pc which I’m hoping to soon, and even then I might never go back). Once I figured I was fingerprinted I just made a random bullshit account with a fake email that got banned pretty quick that I use for a few subreddits on my pc that I’m actually subscribed to.

            So when I go onto my pc, I’m logged into a rando account I made just so I could sub to some of my sports subs, local news subs, and a few novelty subs I enjoyed over the years to keep up with news. All my main accounts I had over the years are all deleted.

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              they fingerprint your browser(what kind of browser, the version, if you have it minimized or not,etc) other things they look for is components of some of your device, time and date. they eventually will sniff out vpns/PROXIES if doesnt have it in thier database already. other specific things like, are using a google email(they seem to trust those more) or those temp emails. allegedly brave hid your fingerprinting, thats why some reported they dint get banned for a while.

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      I was on Reddit for a couple of years before creating an account, but I couldn’t stand seeing another “one of us” crowd surf the whole thing to enshitification during the API thing so I’ve stopped going there.

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      and only the admins can unban people, since there are so few of them, they likely ignore most appeals. also they automatic ignore any subsequent accounts than the one you original got banned on too,.

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    Welcome! We don’t have karma counts here.

    You can have a shit opinion and die on that hill free of consequence.

    However, Lemmy is small enough that we all know each other.

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      Lemmy is small enough that we all know each other.

      I don’t know about this part, but it’s a great place, and you do occasionally bump into people you’ve met several times. It’s fun that way. 😊

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        There’s always that guy who uses thorns on his posts so you know you’ve run unto him before because it’s so obvious

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          To be honest, several people do that.

          Nowadays I tend to let those people know it’s futile, if their aim is to counteract AI scraping.

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            I think one doing it said, they do it for style, no idea about others, if there are several. But let them be, we are online, and practically have crawled to hide under a rock here - of course you are going to encounter multiple different type of weirdoes. Writing a bit funny is very low on the list of bothersome things, I have seen people do here. If you get annoyed at the thorns, just stop reading and scroll past. In the long run, creating a negative space with mean comments, just makes things worse for everyone.

            //Sorry, I meant “you” in general, I was not trying to aim this at you specifically.

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              I think you’re assuming that a) I’m annoyed and b) I’m complaining to them about it. Neither are true.

              It does make it harder to read, but I’m not annoyed. And I simply tell them it doesn’t work, in a calm way, as an FYI. 🫡👍 It’s a service I provide. If they do it for fun, I won’t stand in their way.

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                Yes, I am sorry! I did not want to point a finger at you, but I messed up. Your comment just happened to remind me of, how I see so many angry answers, and mass-downvoting, everytime I spot one of the thornpeople comments. And it makes me sad! Why do people get so pissed off, over such a minor thing, I do not understand.

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                  I down vote them because it’s useless and makes the reading harder, especially for dyslexic people
                  But usually i also explain it to them and recently i started to share this meme every time i see this dude using the thorn

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                  No worries, no offense taken! ❤️

                  I mean, if you do it just for fun and expect people to work with you on it, I understand the down voters. It’s noise for a very selfish reason if you do it for fun.

                  If you do it for counter-AI purposes, it’s less selfish, just uninformed. 😊

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            You can’t poison AI at all these days. Even if you add turpentine to pasta sauce, you will not succeed.

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      Honestly the only names I remember is the Star Trek person who posts a lot, Violet, and Lady Butterfly. I just don’t remember most names. But if I do it’s probably a popular poster. Do you remember a lot of names?

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        There’s ThePicardManeuver, yeah. I’m the one who posts photography exclusively with city and state titles (which is daunting when 90% of my work is “Portland, OR”). TheTechnician27, SatansMaggotyCumFart, can’t believe I typed that out.

        There’s a lot of people on here I’ve kept separate from the masses.

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      I’ve noticed that disagreements on here are a lot more respectful than on Reddit. For the most part, anyway.

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      Yeah, just keep that shit opinion to that one thread and be cool everywhere else. Easy guide to getting along with everyone here: if you want to hold a grudge against someone, just block them or kiss them, we don’t want to see the whole drama just the end points. :3

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    I got banned from reddit and came over to lemmy fully after saying “Peter Thiel should be turned into soup” three times

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      three times

      I heard that if you do it in front of a mirror, you’ll see a vision of his blood boy from beyond the grave.

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      It’s even easier to move now that you need an account to even read old reddit.

      I would have thought that since they’re providing a different view to Google as most users, they should be kicked off Google too, but they haven’t been

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        Mmhmm. After the first time I said it I got an instant 3 day ban. I knew it was the end.

        I got unbanned and immediately said it again in a thread of people talking about censorship.

        The third time was replying to someone who said “why is everyone suddenly getting banned?” in reply to someone who just got banned.

        The third time, what I wrote was putting what happened in context. You’re not even allowed to talk about it.

        I was mad at the time, big mad. Its fortunate they don’t have physical presence nearby or I’d have been a nuisance outside their office.

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    Also, when a bunch of people left reddit 3 years ago, it seemed like they flooded it with bots to pad the numbers. In any case welcome! 😁 I’ve also been here (in some form or another) since the API drama.

    I would recommend that you create a couple of accounts on different instances (Piefed/Fedia etc.) because, although it’s a lot better these days, sometimes they can suddenly go offline. Not all together usually, but it’s nice to still have some way in when that happens.

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        Lost my original Kbin account when it went down and now have the rest of my posts split between Dbzer0 and Sopuli, so it would definitely be useful if accounts could be combined and moved between servers somehow.

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      What do you do when that happens? Been here for a bit and have not had to deal with that but I would like to be prepared.

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        Lemmy let’s you backup your subscriptions/blocks/ and I think saves to be imported.

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          You can have posts on here? Anyways thank you i just realized some people have way more subscriptions and blocks than I do.

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            I have very few blocks but many subscription. I browse scaled primarily and find a lot of interesting comms. Many are also from deceased instances that I am I not ready to unsubscribe from. I hope it doesn’t take up resources pinging things that will. Never respond back.

            I understand you weren’t being serious but please do considering posting. The bar for entry here is low. I was a serial commenter on reddit back in the fay but rarely posted, but here on Lemmy I have made an effort to share more directly. I have about a 1:10 ratio.

            If choosing a community is ever the barrier there is !nowhereelsetoshare@sh.itjust.works for that purpose (disclosure: I created it)

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      I would recommend that you create a couple of accounts on different instances

      That’s a lot of effort for social media. Who has time for alts?

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    Reddit is just too botted out to be a reasonable place for a conversation anymore.

    There’s two back and forths before someone gets angry and everyone has a personal anecdote that contradicts any point anyone makes.

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      funny reddi thinks thier bans are stopping bots, but the people who owns the bots, have ways around it. propaganda farms dont care if they get banned they will just keep switching around using different IP and making more bots, while single users with alot of accounts have to use something more sophisticated to get around it. reddit is like 50-60% bots, and many subs are just AI generated posts

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    I got banned for saying, “If you see a Nazi, punch a Nazi”, as a play on “If you see something, say something”.

    I had over 950K karma on a 9-year-old account.

    I still read a couple of subs there, but I won’t care if they start requiring an account to read. I can leave them behind.

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        I got banned from the entire site for reporting a “kill all men” post for misandry.

        If you do something an admin doesn’t like, they ban you.

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        I got permanently banned from the entire site for saying I wanted Karoline Leavitt gone. Someone said her nose is now to small for her face after plastic surgery. And i replied she should just follow her small nose and be gone.

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          Yeah, I’ve had two bans, a three-day and a seven-day, for “calls for violence.” In my opinion, that term is very loosely applied. That being said, site wide permabans for first infractions aren’t a thing.

          OP saying “I didn’t do anything” is bullshit too and doesn’t help anyone. Just say what you did, it probably doesn’t warrant the ban, but not being truthful about it is pointless.

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            Quite right, I got permabanned for something very innocuous after lots of three-day bans for quite strident support for targeted violence against the rich, ie Luigi type stuff.

            I think the actual ban was from me pointing out that the people murdered on Bondi Beach were there at a religious event which, while attended by lots of perfectly innocent Jewish people for fine reasons, was organised and funded by a right-wing Zionist group that is quite controversial.

            I also made sure to say that it did not excuse the actions of the two killers at all.

            It would be like shooting up a Catholic church during the Christmas Mass.

            The Roman Catholic Church is responsible for immeasurable pain and suffering throughout history and recently, but most of the people at mass are just there for Christmas stuff; they didn’t run the church.

            I appealed the ban, they upheld it, I came here.

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            Yeah, they kept calling the gifs I posted (below) calls for violence. Just tell me explicitly not to post weegee and we're cool. Don't bullshit it.

            I never appealed my bans, because who gives a fuck it’s social media

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              Oh wait, I misread your post. I was advocating for violence against nazis.

              No, reddit actively promotes hateful content if anything. As long as it is advertiser friendly. They couldn’t give a fuck about banning them.

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        I got a perma ban from the whole site for literally saying the words “thatsthejoke.jpeg” on a thread about a tongue in cheek DYI cat tree that was made to look like the twin towers.

        Someone was upset because in the video they’re attaching a small plane to the top of one tower for a cat swat toy. In the video they call it “a little birdie for the cat to play with” and the comment i replied to was upset saying it was clearly an airplane. I simply replied “thatsthejoke.jpeg”.

        The next morning I was perma banned from Reddit.

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      I follow a couple subs, but only via rss. i don’t go to their site at all. fuck spez, as obligatory.

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    I got banned temporarily for being racist apparently… Whilst defending foreigners

    I suspect the mod system there is somewhat based on the number of reports now and crazies are abusing it

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      Site wide Perma banned for calling someone a “Fucking piece of human garbage” while they were all up and down a thread advocating for murdering trans people.

      I got banned. I checked a few days and he was still posting. Not even a suspension.

      Apparently I was “spreading hate or promoting violence”.

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        I think that’s the exact same thing they hit me with.

        The crazy part is that i don’t think I’ve even dated a local in years here (my last girlfriend was Chinese, and my previous one Pakistani) I have a lesbian family member, and we have plenty of gay and trans people who I hang out with most weeks in my climbing group. And I lived in a Muslim country for years

        I’m the first one always telling others to let courts handle everything too and (yep, even Trump), and reporting all the subtle violent threats on Facebook people make and argue with them publicly that they’re being a**holes

        It doesn’t seem uncommon for people to get incorrectly accused it seems there either

        I didn’t even abuse anyone to the best of my knowledge.

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      Now? This is nothing new. I got falsely banned after being targeted by a botnet after pissing off a botter and it took a week to process the appeal.

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    Yep happened to me too I had a good 60k+ Karma on a 5 year old account.

    Say that Nazis should be fought back against and that Child predators should be locked away for life and Reddit decided I was a dangerous individual and banned me.

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    I’m shadow banned 12/24 on my old high karma years old account for posting how to make DIY Luigi Mangione prayer candles on witches vs patriarchy

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    I got banned for making an account just to post in the World Cup threads but the sub wouldn’t let me post because my account needed to be older and have a certain amount of karma

    This “you can’t post message” came with a note saying I could message a mod and then a link to click to do just that, so I did

    I explained I wasn’t a bot, I was a human, I’d prove it however they wanted, but I couldn’t really wait days to post because the World Cup is happening now and in 3 or 4 days I’d miss like 12 games

    They responded saying that I had zero karma and had not made any posts…

    So I replied that yeah, this is exactly true because I don’t like reddit I only signed up to post in the World Cup Match threads

    I received a very nasty reply where they told me that reddit was super popular with millions of users and that it wasn’t their problem I didn’t like reddit and then my account got banned

    I believe the World Cup is super popular and so it’s not just a random sub ran by random people in the world… but a sub made by reddit and moderated by reddit employees. So I just told a reddit employee I hate their site and so they banned me

    It’s a pretty shit site

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      did that come from the MOds? sounds like them. alot of mods are pretty content even if reddit filters are banning people , for no apparent reason, because the mod themselves are too lazy to verify actual reports.

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        yeah.

        I made a comment in a match thread and got the alert on the little bell icon that usually means somebody responded

        But instead of a response it was an auto-message that said my comment had been removed because my account is too new and doesn’t have enough Karma to post. But this auto-message also said something like, “message the mods here” and then had a link I could click to message the mods of the World Cup sub, so that’s what I did

        And all I was doing was explaining that I’m not a bot and I’ll take a picture or whatever to prove it, I’m just a dude who signed up for reddit that day just to post in the world cup match threads. That waiting days before being allowed to post isn’t the end of the world but considering the World Cup is a limited-time event, not allowing me to post for days would mean I wouldn’t be able to post in match threads for 12 or 13 of the games (at that point there were 3 or 4 a day)

        So I was just asking if they could lift my ban considering the circumstances

        But they came back and questioned why I had no posted anywhere else on reddit.

        So I told them, “I don’t really like reddit. I don’t have any interest in posting anywhere else. I’m literally only here for the World Cup match threads”.

        And I guess me telling them that reddit sucks was a trigger because the response I got back after that was super nasty

        It wasn’t until later did I think, “I be the World Cup sub is a sub created by reddit admins themselves because of it’s popularity. So I bet the mods of that sub are people who work for reddit. And I just told reddit employees I think their site sucks shit, hence the nasty response”

        It’s just a bit ironic because it was their chance to change my mind and prove that reddit doesn’t suck. Instead they banned my entire account and just kind of proved to me that everything bad I think about their site is not only true but actually much, much worse

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    i didn’t do anything they just banned my account

    I have seen people who got banned on lemmy who deserved it say this (there are most likely a lot of cases on reddit where people were banned for a bad reason, but saying that you didnt do anything doesnt mean much)

    Isnt karma meaningless? I have gotten more from a single bad joke on a popular community

    Isnt ip banning a common way to get around people using alt accounts?

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        the terms “jail the” plus identity triggered the ban. I’m not surprised.

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          I’m not surprised either. I just wish there was human intervention before a week long ban was enacted, rather than making me beg like a dog after

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            You can thank the teeming legions of genuinely hateful people flooding platforms everywhere for their mods/admins/etc. investing less and less time in pruning each individual (suspected) instance of hate.

            You were the baby that was thrown out with the bathwater. I doubt your absence will impact their shareholder value.

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        Mentioning the USA and religion is unlikely going to go well on US social media, unless you are asking for thoughts, prayers, and guns.

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        Your ban seems like one of two things:

        • The person or bot didn’t understand you were being sarcastic (hell, even I’m not 100% sure)

        • The person or bot didn’t receive (or bother to check) the context, which hints at the above

        Sarcastically stating something is a dangerous game, and you got burnt.

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          I feel like it’s maybe the most obvious sarcasm in history. Like, it shouldn’t take more than a middle school level reading comprehension to understand that I’m pointing out how a so-called “originalist” can arbitrarily hold beliefs about the meaning of the text that are in direct contradiction to the literal written text.

          I shouldn’t have to add a /s when I say something that’s obviously wrong

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            I shouldn’t have to add a /s

            Ah, the mantra of everyone who’s ever had their satire/sarcasm mistaken for sincerity.

            Again, you played with matches, you got burnt. That’s the risk for the fun you signed up for.

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      I got banned from a sub, didn’t know, year later commented on that popular front page sub from an alt, every account I have was instantly perma banned with no appeal. (Just a bot that auto responds no)

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      the political ones usually are obvious banned on reddit for a reason(political misinformation/disinformation), plus the transphobic.

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      I made fun of AI. Bot banned me. Def banned with IP cuz using a VPN on a backup device was fine. However, I figure if they’re that petty to ban, then fuck them! I had 150k+ karma over 10 years. Sad to lose the maker communities, and tech swaps, but whatever. Fucking BS.

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        you arnt losing much, most of the reddit are bots anyways. and many of subs have AI BOT posting, i suspect these bot posting are the ones that are trying to gain a prescence so they dont get banned by reddit immediately.

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      From what i know, Reddit also stores some device ID or sum shit to keep ya banned, i also verified this by changing my IP and making a new account, so it means that you have a chance of gettin banned on reddit for just using a used phone 💔

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      I think my account was banned, but don’t know for sure. I left during the API bullshit.

      Definitely didn’t do anything against the rules.

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    Reddit has become absolutely garbage in that respect. You can be banned for literally anything. They don’t even send you a message telling you why anymore. Appeals go into a black hole.

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    I kept advocating the guillotine for politicians who betray their people and/or rape kids. Apparently that’s me being evil.

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      I really do detest these corporate run sites lacking the two brain cells to get that you are allowed to kill in self defense, and discussing it is not the same as “threatening violence.” Bud. Mod. DUDE. When you are fighting malignant societal cancer, there is no valid argument about “dehumanizing them;” They did that to themselves when they started removing our rights to self autonomy, free movement and expression. This goes beyond “philosophical disagreements,” it’s an unbridgeable ideological schism at this point.