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      Always wild concept to me. People bringing their $1000 electronics into an environment not made for them. Like come on, how long are you in the shower, do you really need to be entertained while washing your body?

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      Back before smartphones, when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it, there was a rumor going around. Kids with friends in Japan were hearing that people over there had waterproof cellphones and would be talking while in the shower. We were super jealous, not for shower talking, but for the feature. I’d think ICP rated phones today should be able to handle some humidity.

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        There are Insane Clown Posse rated phones!? I need one of those because I keep killing mine because I spill Faygo on it.

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        when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it,

        This sentence fragment really threw me for a loop lol… It took a minute, but I got there eventually.

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      I’ve done it before. Time-constrained, watching something interesting.

      These days I’ll shower with a resistant earbud in, listening to music. I shower early/late and don’t want the music to wake my partner. (probably less likely than the shower itself, but that’s how i roll)

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      Can’t give your wife any chance on reading texts of you hitting on other women.

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        Notthst I’m cheating with other women (seriously who can be bothered) my phone is locked with my fingerprint. As much as we share a lot in life I have not given her copies of my fingerprints so she couldn’t unlock the phone anyway. In theory she knows the passcode but since she asks me for it every single time she needs to use my phone I’m recently confident she doesn’t retain it.

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          My last partner and I had fingerprints on each other’s devices just for convenience sake, mostly so that we can text on each other’s behalf while the other was driving or in case of an emergency situation.

          I would argue doing this right takes way more Trust than just keeping the boundaries up , and that I wouldn’t prescribe it for most couples.

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    There is two people in this thread

    1. people who read “bringing your phone in the shower” as having the phone in the same room as the shower.

    2. everyone else who seems to think that people are putting their phones directly under the shower nozzle.

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      I do it all the time. Before smart phones were a thing I had a water proof shower radio. Now I use the phone for the same thing. Mostly listening to news or a podcast or something. Sometime it’s a Nebula video, but in the shower I’d just be listening to it like a podcast anyway. Before phones were waterproof I used to use a waterproof Bluetooth speaker.

      I’ve never had steam cause a problem, but then again my showers aren’t long, aren’t very hot and my phone is kept pretty high up and out of the way.

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          Everyone uses their phones while eating or pooping. Those activities don’t take long either. I choose to listen to something while showering.

          It’s ok if you don’t understand it or do it yourself, but some people take their phone into the shower. It is a thing.

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            I like to sometimes take a break from my phone while pooping and read a product label, like the olden times

            Would recommend every now and then

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            or pooping

            Those activities don’t take long

            That’s a strange assumption here

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            “Everyone” does not use their phone while eating or pooping. I make an effort to engage with mine as little as possible, in a perfect world checking it when I wake up when I get home and before bed. For me the phone is a weird mix of useful tool and addictive drug, almost impossible to drop entirely but very much worth limiting access to. Constant stimulation is certainly a choice you can make, but probably not a healthy one. I view what you’re doing the same way you might view someone saying they always drink a beer in the shower.

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            Pooping takes forever 🥺 and please don’t say fiber. There’s no room left for more 💀

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        You can get a waterproof Bluetooth speaker pretty cheap. Better sound and zero risk of anything happening to the phone. I love mine.

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      Like a few other commenters, I had never even thought that taking your phone into the shower was a thing until I saw this post.

      Just… why? Why risk it? Your average smart phone is anywhere from $500 to over $1000, so what’s so important that you’re deliberately exposing it to water and the risk of dropping it (especially if you’re using shampoo, conditioner, soap or any other bathroom product designed to act as a cleaning agent)? Surely whatever it is can wait however long it is you’re showering for?

      Personally, I wouldn’t want a friend/relative/whatever phoning me or answering the phone if they were in the shower or using the bathroom.

      I can understand one of the other comments about using it to listen to podcasts/music/videos/etc., and at least in that case the phone is presumably far enough away (and not being regularly accessed) that it’s at lower risk. Fair enough – I sometimes do that whilst washing dishes. Still, I think I’d struggle trying to listen to something whilst actively showering – too much other noise.

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        Put a bluetooth speaker in the shower instead of your phone; it’s not like you can work the screen with wet hands anyway.

        SInce my speaker stopped working, I’ve taken to putting the phone in a plastic baggie hanging from the curtain rod between the curtains.

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          How dense is your shower curtain than you can’t leave it outside the shower and still hear it??

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            The speaker on my Pixel 7 is plenty loud, but so is the water in the shower.

            I also listen to podcasts, which are usually mixed quieter than music, and require more volume to pick up quieter consonants.

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              I got a couple Amazon Echo Show 8s and hacked them with Lineage. It doesnt sound great but it at least has more body than my cell phone, so I can actually hear it. And I dont have to mess around with Bluetooth. And there’s no battery.

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                You think hacking an Amazon Show with Lineage is less work than “messing around with Bluetooth”? You’ll fit right in here.

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            Not the person you replied to but I can hear it just fine…but I would rather not hear music at all than to hear it muffled through a shower curtain and a waterfall.

            Speaker’s gotta be IN the shower or I’m singing my own songs

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        The shower is the one place where I can have some peace and switch off. No news, no noise, no immediate crises that need solving. Just listen to the running water, enjoy for a bit, feel a little bit more relaxed and clean afterwards. A phone would achieve the exact opposite.

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        my phone is here for a good time, not a long time

        Seriously, if it survives being attached to me for 2-3 years, a little occasional steam damage is not going to be its biggest concern

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        I read my daily web fiction in the shower while I wake up. My iPhone 10 is still going strong after all these years of steam. Hell, it’s been dropped several times.

        Yeah it’s a little weird, but we’ve all gotta cope in this world

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        I had a “waterproof” e reader that was sitting in the bathroom directly opposite the shower for a week, the battery got fucked up and the case popped off

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        Meh. I started doing this with my iPod 10 ish years ago, continued it with an Android that had no IP rating, and still do it with an IP-rated flagship. Over daily showers all that time I have yet to drop or have one fail. I have also used them in the rain on occasion. If something happens I will consider a 1 in 3,000 occurence not bad.

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          Same. I like to listen to music or podcasts in the shower sometimes. I’m not standing in the water with my phone but sometimes it gets wet because I change sometime. I’ve never had an issue

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        Who the fuck pays 500 bucks for a phone? It’s a fucking phone. You gotta make phone calls and get spied by Google and everything, that’s all I see.

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      In case you don’t actually know anybody under the age of about 35, the next time you are riding a bus or are a passenger in a car, start watching other drivers and see how many of them literally cannot put their phones down. Like even if they aren’t actually looking at them while they drive, which is like a solid 30% of all drivers, another significant chunk is holding the phone even when not in use. The shower is not even a high bar at this point.

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        Laughs in South Australia.

        $592 + Victims of Crime levy = $700 fine if you’re caught using your phone while driving or stopped at a intersection (inc. red light)

        You’re only allowed to use a phone mounted in a cradle for Audio calls and GPS navigation. (Uber, etc is a grey area)

        Don’t use your phone while driving. Just don’t do it.

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        Wouldn’t advise them to do that if they rent a car in Norway. The fine is about $1100 if they’re caught, plus three points on the license.

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          We have fines and demerit points where I live, but they don’t seem to be enforced often. Our cops are too busy…uh, I don’t actually even know, but we sure pay them a lot (as an organization). Traffic enforcement seems to have gone down quite significantly in the past few years.

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      How else am I going to clean the phone after using it while I shit? That’s dirty

      Next you’ll be telling me I should use a bidet instead of cleaning my ass with the shower wand.

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        How else am I going to clean the phone after using it while I shit?

        Obviously you do what 99.99999999% of people do. Nothing. Never clean it. Ever. From the day you buy it. At most you wipe the screen with some water. Maybe windex.

        Source: Repaired cell phones for years.

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        I would recommend sanitizing wipes for that. Alcohol, not chemical chlorox or whatever.

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          Alcohol wipes on my ass!?

          That’s gonna burn the shit out of my hemorrhoids, no thank you!

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      Why not? (The article says steam is a problem, so cold showers are alright)

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      Pretty sure they actually mean the bathroom, not the shower.

      Keep it outside the bathroom if possible

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      Ummm…to read this post on Lemmy?

      Also, I need a new phone - the steam has made my pixel 8 pro front camera all cloudy and my screen has started dying.

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        To be honest, that’s a very expensive solution to feed what sounds like an internet addiction. I have a Pixel 8 Pro too, and it’s still in as-new condition. I’ll keep it till it breaks by itself

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          Cool. I’m very happy for you.

          Of all addictions to have it could be worse. But it’s actually the opposite. I love long warm showers - something about the water hitting my back whilst sitting on a stool that feels very relaxing. I have video essays going whilst I do that.

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      It’s not about you I guess mate.

      Plenty of people do it though.

      The neat thing is you don’t have to read everything that doesn’t necessarily affect you.

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    I used to have a perfectly working system with a waterproof bag-thing for the phone and a bluetooth speaker somewhere outside of the shower so I could watch youtube videos while just chilling in the shower.

    Also had one of those long 1920s cigarette holders so I could smoke a joint in there. I made a good time out of it.

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    It is pretty amazing to me that some people really have to be told not to bring their expensive electronics into the shower. It’s the shower, just wash your dirty ass and get out.

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        You’re not alone, same same. Folks in this thread have a very narrow definition of the role and the duration of the shower.

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          I mean i kinda get it i take fifteen minute showers but ill put on a video helps me keep time too so i know how long i been in there. I also don’t take super hot showers so there’s no steam, idk maybe yeah if i had the shower all the way hot it’d be a problem but i take a nice hot shower and there’s not much steam idk

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      Tbf, since I have done this some 2-3 times:

      Some special shampoos require you to be sitting there for like 10 minutes until it does its thing. I thought it was safe since water was no longer coming out of the shower, I didn’t consider the high humidity environment.

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          Feels so awkward to jack off in the shower. I much prefer doing it sitting in the toilet.

          When I say special shampoo I mean it. Like the one time my dog got fleas so I used anti-flea dog shampoo just in case. It took forever.

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        Why not use that time to soap up and rinse off your body while you wait for the shampoo to do its thing? That’s what I do.

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          Washing and rinsing doesn’t take that long. I usually shave or clean the shower while I wait, and even that doesn’t take long enough sometimes

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            Some hair dyes can have you standing there for 10 or 20 minutes.

            Sometimes just enjoying the steam is nice. It’s taking a lot of Blood Sweat and Tears to build a modern world, we are fortunate to have hot safe water on top. I’m going to spend my time and money standing under the boiling shower head and enjoy myself for far longer than everyone else is going to decide is reasonable, I’m going to keep reading and listening while I do so.

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      I find it meditative… washing the nooks, rinsing, etc. I do, sometimes, run music outside on a counter with a door open.

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    Have the same phone for 6 years now, bring it into the shower most days, and have not had any issues.

    Maybe steam has a non-zero effect but it’s pretty damn close to zero…

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        Wanting to listen to music in the shower??? Could humanity get any lower? Disgusting

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          I do listen to music in the shower, lmao

          I take my waterproof Bluetooth speaker inside the shower, and leave my phone in the other room

          Even if I didn’t have a speaker, you don’t need to have your phone in the shower with you to be able to hear it

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            I have a marsboy, and it is on the sink, not in the shower. But then again, I also leave the door open and the exhaust on, so the mirror doesn’t fog. But I honestly wouldn’t take anything with a screen in there.

            However, I did have a airpod fall out of my left ear and it dropped in the toilet. Due to its “sleek design” it took me a good five minutes to retrieve it. Kept it separated from activation and tried it out over a few hours. Surprisingly, it still works.

            But it does remind me of a coworker who had an iPod Touch and bragged that he had found the perfect pocket: his breast pocket. That same day, he destroyed in when it fell in the toilet.

            I cheered him up by sending him the IT Crowd episode where Moss did the same thing with his cell phone.

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              Lmao, I love the IT crowd

              That’s a good point about leaving the door open, I leave it closed and steam my shit up (I do have the exhaust on tho, I’m not a maniac)

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          Yeah, disgusting that you need constant media and disgusting that you spend that much time in the shower.

          It takes me about 20 minutes to shower, shave, brush my teeth, and dress, but in all fairness, I pick out my clothes before I go to bed.

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      I think it’s pretty common to take a wank in the shower, but I suppose others use it for music or radios

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      Me. I have a phone mount installed in the shower. I need my dopamine receptors to be constantly stimulated from artificial sources, or I can’t accomplish basic tasks like cleaning/showering/cooking. Executive Dysfunction is a bitch.

      People with normal dopamine levels just can’t relate, so I get a lot of flack and am often called lazy. Which is annoying as hell because I genuinely want to be a functioning adult, but my stubborn brain just refuses to let me accomplish anything without external stimulation. It’s torture being labeled something you’re not, just because someone can’t understand what it’s like when your brain won’t make the reward chemicals on its own. But it is what it is.

      Also BTW I’ve been doing this for a decade and only once has a phone actually died on me from water damage. So I don’t worry about it. I’m clumsy so I always have an insurance plan for my phones regardless…

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        Is that not something that meds like Ritalin can help with, like ADHD? Or is it different?

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          Stimulants like Adderall, PEA, Octodrine, and Propylhexedrine are a half decent band-aid, but they raise my blood pressure and make me feel “tweaky” so I don’t want to take them every day. They feel like they’re slowly killing me. I mean imagine taking meth every single day. That’s what it feels like for me. Unfortunately since tolerance builds rapidly, I have to take massive doses for it to continue working, further compounding the problem.

          So I try not to take stims more than a few times a month, because even once a week is too much for me. It sucks ass that there’s no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.

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            Man adderall gave me psychosis that landed me in a mental hospital. I’m also a non functional adult and I’m trying to unfuck my document situation here in Hell America. I do agree that yeah; stimulants are bad especially if you are like me. Who is prone to bouts of insanity because on stims you really can’t really control your own thoughts anymore. It’s a terrifying experience and honestly it’s not that that uncommon to have ADD or ADHD and be a bit psychotic. Especially worse with the OCD that I used to have with it. But you know at least I had a super friendly dog and grandparents to take care of me and a Nintendo Switch. I got over it eventually but I never wanna go through that experience ever again. Though I do appreciate having the ability to sleep for an entire year essentially through a winter. Being in a dark room also helped a lot. It kinda feels like a fever dream when I remember it now though. I should probably go back on anti psychotics after my most recent break with stimulants. Shame I don’t have money or health insurance.

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            It sucks ass that there’s no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.

            There is exciting research being done in metabolic psychiatry looking at ADHD in fat adapted people. There is a ongoing study (https://doi.org/10.1186/ISRCTN62698625) but there is a good expectation they will see sustained results, this is inline with Dr. Georgia Ede’s metabolic strategy in Change your Diet Change your mind. The study authors gave a interview 2 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAbqXcSAzg , so maybe we will see the results published soon.

            infographic of change your diet, change your mind

            TLDR - metabolism and brain energy appear to be the core of many psychiatric conditions, so its worth trying a fat burning metabolism for 30 days and see if it improves your ADHD.

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            Can we just take a moment to say, it is insane to me that the general public would prescribe drugs onto a neurospicy person just so that they felt normal about their predisposition and judgmental about everyone else’s in how they use their assistive technology?

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      Nah hold on.

      Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?

      If I had to give that shit up then I want the damn feature. Otherwise waterproof speakers exist and we never had to give up anything.

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        Taking away the headphone jack was more likely so they could try to make you buy $200 wireless headphones that need to be replaced every few years.

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          Every few years? Brave of you to assume that after owning them for 6 months or so I haven’t sent all of my wireless earbuds through the wash because I didn’t feel them in the pocket when doing laundry.

          Now I’m using over ear wireless headphones because I can’t mistakenly wash a huge set of cans.

          Side note: I can wash your mom’s huge set of cans

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        Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?

        Because said waterproofing was for accidental, rare incidents of exposure, such that you have enough time to yank it somewhere safe before water penetrated.

        Waterproofing was never meant for intentional, repeated, or extended exposure to extreme environments. That’s what waterproof cases are for. You know, the kind that allow your phone to go intentionally into water.

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          Yea that’s my whole argument. We lost very important things for some bullshit.

          Should be an option, not mandatory.

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              Yea I don’t care.

              We make excuses thousands of times a year for every shit ass corporation.

              Fuck em. Figure it out and stop delivering FOMO dogshit to people.

              Repairability is more important than some adult childs inability to hang on to an item or make the correct decision to buy waterproof said item.

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      <raises hand>

      I listen to The Daily podcast or audiobooks. The phone goes into a little 3D printed holder to keep it dry and redirect the sound. I’ve done this for years with multiple phones, never any issues.

      Even though modern iPhones are “waterproof” I like to keep it as dry as possible. The touchscreen stops working reliably if it gets wet, and the speakers can get blocked by water droplets and reduces the volume.

      It’s also worth noting that living in the PNW requires using the bathroom fan to keep the moisture down. The bathroom never gets that steamy, which I’m sure drastically changes the moisture exposure equation.

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        In the bathroom in general, I can understand. Even without a fan, the steam rarely reaches countertop height, so putting it on the countertop or the lid of the toilet or something else low still makes sense if you are in the shower.

        My issue lies in having it IN the shower, and having it taking the moisture straight in the teeth. Like… why?? It’s not like it is impossible to hear from next to the shower, well out of the way of said moisture.

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          Why? Mostly, so I can control it if an episode ends but also for max volume over the shower sounds. When I travel and don’t have a good place for it, I will use a nearby toilet or counter.

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        Same. Geez Lemmy really gets up on a pedestal about this.

        I hate hearing my own thoughts and everything’s depressing right now. Listening to music instead of my own thoughts is considered a plus.

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          I mean I do bring the phone into the bathroom to listen to music, but I use it with a bluetooth speaker and it stays on the sink. Why would you even bring it inside the shower? Capacitive touch screens work like shit when wet.

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            I have a stand opposite where it stays dry. My shower is fairly big and I put it where the shampoo and conditioner is and it’s where the wall is … I’d never keep it wet.

            I don’t touch the screen. I just listen to things. I could just leave it on the counter.

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          if you can’t be alone with your own thoughts you need therapy. not an insult. if you can’t stand what kind of person you are to the point that your thoughts are toxic, talk to someone. seriously.

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            I’ve been to therapy, many times … yes, I’m suffering, yes I’m trying to improve and no it isn’t easy and I’m going through something rough really right now.

            I have a lot of friends around me and no one to turn to but yeah, I’m not looking for an online consult right now (as in I’m not holding you or any other Lemmy socially hostage about this). I just can’t bear my own thoughts right now.

            [edit] thanks though from across the Internet, I do appreciate it [/edit]

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      My cousin kill a phone this way. He would leave it on the sink to listen to music while he showered and it died (old house - no exhaust fan). It happens.

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      A lot of people in Japan supposedly, at least that’s what someone told me once. Apparently JDM smartphones had waterproofing way before others because of that.

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    if you feel the need to bring your phone into the shower, you really need to take a hard look into your steamed up mirror