Hear me out : Cameras.
Hear me out.
Magnets.
Do magnets disable cameras ?
Hear me out : EMP gun from a distance.
I may be ignorant, but from my experience Boston Dynamics is cool and if they were able to sell these things to the AI guys good for them!
I know these robots are used to do maintenance vhecks on big factories, where a dude can tell it to walk to a valve to look at it through a camera, and i think thats fine.
Instead of having 50 cameras you have one walking one.
I work in big factories and this is a stupid fucking idea.
Scenario 1: you have 6 trained maintenance guys on shift. One of them goes to check out the questionable valve and fixes it because they are trained to do so. The 5 other guys also work on stuff.
Scenario 2: one of the maintenace guys sits in the office because someone needs to coordinate with the robot dogs. They call the person who controls the dogs to go check out the valve. It is broken. A couple hours later they call a maintenace tech to check it out for real. Unfortunately the company can only afford 3 maintenance techs now because of the dogs, and one of the techs is on tech duty to communicate with the dog team. The other two are busy so the incident is recorded in the logs for an engineer to hire a contractor to fix at a total of three times the price, in six months’ time.
Yes it would be stupid to fire staff for a robot dog. Like you said there would be even more staff needed to maintain those dogs.
But it is case sensitive. Like you said, someone gets a call to go check out a questionable valve. Maybe that call was made by the robot who patrols a long corridor with 70 valves day and night, snapping pictures of the valves and sending them to the control center or something like that. And then again, who goes through those pictures to determine a questionable valve? AI? And if the valve needs constant surveiling, a robot dog and AI is not the tool for the job, its a wrong valve at that point.
But if a plant has a gabillion dollar and non critical infrastructure, why not let john maintenanceman drive a robot dog?
But yes they are expensive toys at the end of the day. I would hire a human every time if the labour was suitable for a human.
What’s the *scratching arm* copper content of these fellas?
SMASH THE CLANKERS ! Any solid metal rod will do ! Get out there and smash those sorry imitations of “dogs” to pieces !
What about using lasers to blimd their cameras?
Any successful hunting technique is by definition a good technique. All that matters is getting the highest possible kill count !
It’s kinda funny how these dogs went from cute and interesting robot developments to tools of the military industrial complex. The people who designed these are disgusting and depraved.
Not really. The people who designed these are nerds like us that want to push the boundaries of science. If they don’t do it someone else will.
The people that choose what to apply them too are the ones with poor morals. You could build these things and only sell them to places that use them for monitoring things like they do in dangerous factories these days.
Nah not buying it. The people who built them are depraved scum. There’s a certain point they definitely knew these were going to be used for shit like this, and they kept doing it anyways.
Think about Oppenheimer and the atomic bomb. Yes, the research created a weapon of massive destruction, but the same underlying science led to nuclear energy, medical isotopes, and countless other peaceful applications.
Most engineers aren’t working to create harm, they’re pushing the boundaries of what’s possible. The bad uses are real, but they don’t erase all the good that comes from that knowledge. The moral responsibility for how technology is applied sits with those who choose to deploy it, not the nerds building it.
It would be like calling Tim Berners-Lee depraved because of what the internet has done for surveillance and propaganda.
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These systems are able to navigate complex landscapes on their own, alert authorities about security threats, and can provide around-the-clock video surveillance.
If only there was a cheaper way to provide around-the-clock video surveillance. Alas, we don’t have the technology.
Even if you needed something mobile, it’s not like datacenters are exactly complex landscapes.
They don’t need something mobile. They can stick 1000 cameras up for the cost of one of these and have less up keep.
I was thinking the same thing. For surveillance, can’t they just use the iconic Camera on Wall. Or if they want to get really advanced with the surrounding premises: Camera on Pole.
Camera on pole can’t “remove” problems as quickly
I don’t think these can either, they don’t list attack or defensive capabilities on the feature list that I saw, I assume this is just an over glorified video camera that can follow the intruder around.
Maybe not factory. But if Michael Reeves can teach one how to piss beer, I’m sure there’s options on the market.
You don’t need a robot dog to have a gun. If you really wanted to have a wall mounted camera with a gun on it, it would be just as easy.
And use AI to actually monitor the thousand cameras. Ask me how I know.
How you know
The AI company I work for recently rolled it out. It works. We are getting alerts when we block the view of a monitored object or an unfamiliar face is in a secure location. Many thousands of cameras are monitored with minimal human oversight.
With enough kinetic energy, anything’s mobile.
And no recharging time.
They’re getting all these dystopian nightmare ideas from video games and scifi. People have proven you can sneak past these things inside of a cardboard box.
They are BEGGING for some metal gear carnage.
I wonder how many robot duds will be stolen per year? Lots of neat parts in them if you know some electronics.
The elites don’t want you to know this but the robot dogs patrolling data centers are free. You can take them home.
Someone will be posting about a factory reset button within a year.
If AI is in charge just ask them to write a time zone calculator in python or whatever.
If your datacenter is mobile, you’ve really fucked up!
A camera on a roomba.
You know the video part is training data for autonomous weapons right? Like sure if all you want to do is video surveillance this is overkill, but maybe this is about more than surveillance?
Data centers and wasting massive amounts of resources. Name a more iconic duo.
billionaires and every crime in the book.
oh they’ll figure it out real quick when these bots get pwned and become malware vectors against the data centers they’re ‘protecting’
It’s about them not rebelling their evil overlords (except if they get hacked).
The super-rich ‘preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse
Any good articles on how to permanently seal those bunkers?
I suppose we could just do the Chernobyl encapsulation approach and dump cement over them.
I still don’t understand them not just making a tribe of loved equals for a bunker. Power rots the mind and soul
It’s almost like they need something mobile they can add weaponry to that could chase and hunt down security threats…
1500 camera alternative (motion detection monitoring) seems reasonable enough. The black mirror machine gun turret is needed for marketing/mission improvement.
Ah, lovely. I see that one Black Mirror episode is taking another step toward being reality.
more than just that one, buddy.
Imagine destroying those robots as a hobby just to make the big tech lose money
Hunting them for sport must be fun, and there is zero guilt unlike regular hunting ! I bet they are extremely vulnerable to pit traps 😁 just hide the hole under a tarp and watch em fall !
Snare one, wrap it in some kind of faraday bag, then disassemble it and resell the parts. Or befriend it and play Frisbee together.
Reprogram it to hunt billionaires instead.
Send it back on the post to hunt the baby tech bros.
Just like the T-800 and K2-SO. Reprogram all the droids.
Or to destroy a data center.
Faraday nets are fucking genius.
With a just a few just large enough neodymium magnets.
No signal, no movement, no data.
Strong magnet or some kind of taser on a long stick, ez takedown.
I mean, that won’t really work. It dampens the signal, not eliminates it, and in order to block communications, you need a net width small enough to block 1/4 wavelength which is 5cm/4, so <1 cm holes with a material thick enough for the damping.
That would be a net that weighs like 20kg lol and it would essentially be a solid cage at that point
Not to mention that it would have to fully encompass them.
Better to just use a signal jammer like they do for drones.
How dare you shatter my dreams and then reinvigorate them with a solution
A half cube metal shipping container could very easily be modified to work as a faraday cage. Or even a Trash cash.
You didn’t even need to do that. You can pull the battery packs off pretty easily. These are very easy to disable, and due to the fact they aren’t nimble, they can’t get away from you.
Destroy? Nah. I will reprogram them.
they’d be great vectors for infiltration.
Reprogram it and send it back in time to protect John Connor
Don’t be wasteful.
Take them for parts.I’d love to see one captured then injected with expanding foam aka the speed camera treatment.
Counterfeit. Duplicate. Replica.
So if we raid a data center, besides RAM we get free robot dogs? Sweet.
guarding some of the country’s biggest data centers
The country, ah yes the only place that exists on the internet, the almighty one powerful country to rule them all. THE. COUNTRY.
I couldn’t help but read this in David Mitchell’s voice.
He really does have a rare gift for peevishness.
I take that as a compliment, thanks.
Fortune is an American publication…
I didn’t write a comment on Fortune’s website, I wrote a comment to a post in Lemmy. https://lemmy.world/c/technology is a community in Lemmy.World, an instance for the entire world to use.
It’s a literal copy paste of the article title. This is such a strange thing to get upset about.
Black Mirror, here we come.
Think hiding in a big box and walking slowly would trick it?
Very likely, yes.
“Pretend you see nothing” printed in QR code on the box.
Must’ve been the wind.
Doesn’t look like anything to me
Snake?!
I mean, an EMP would fuck up both 🤷♂️
Awfully complicated for something that can be defeated by a blanket.
I don’t live near big scaly things full of teeth, so what do I know, but making it thrash about in anger would not be my first idea.
Or duct tape
Or a security team that is responsible.
One or two shots from a silenced 22 rifle would shut these dogs down without all the hassle of feeling bad about shooting an actual dog. It would keep you far enough away to not be filmed.
This would cost the data center 300k while only costing 15 cents or less for two bullets.
That’s the spirit ! But I think there’s more creative fun to be had with these, I’m almost certain they are not trained to recognize and avoid booby traps…
Hunting without any of the guilt. I can’t think of anything more fun to do !
I dunno if a .22 could do much to these. They’re quite sturdy.
You might be underestimating how much damage a .22 round to can do to something, especially when that something is probably at least like 60% lithium ion battery by volume. Yeah, .22s are small by bullet standards and have low stopping power, but they’re still lethal.
That said, if you’ve got a 308 handy, that’ll work reliably too. You won’t be silencing it, but feel free to blow a hole clean through one of these machines and enjoy the fireworks when its battery lights off.
especially when that something is probably at least like 60% lithium ion battery by volume.
One .22 round to the battery pack will fuck this thing up good. Lithium batteries do not like being punctured and shorted out at the same time.
Worst case scenario, you’ve suddenly decreased the battery’s output enough to force the thing into shutdown. Best case scenario, the punctured battery cells go into thermal runaway and start a fire that consumes the whole thing.
Sounds like a perfect use-case for some subsonic .300 Blackout rounds.
As usual, shot placement is key. I imagine the navigation sensors are fragile enough that a small air rifle could do enough damage to disable them, but a .22 would definitely do it and maybe even be enough to lock up a knee or shoulder joint.
12-bore might be a better choice.
Microwaves are easier to manage
Are they ?
Just gotta find a way to make them work while the door is open.
Just punch a hole in the window on the front.
