so i just saw this post in the new all feed … was deleted the moment i wanted to open it for being “off topic”.
pls, everyone, be nice to new users. don’t just remove their first post for being “off topic”. we’re already having a problem of not getting enough new users (link)
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PieFed has a feature that lets admins move posts. If My instance federated lemmy.ml, I’d undelete that post right now and move it to a better community for the topic, like maybe !soulism@multiverse.soulism.net or !storytime@multiverse.soulism.net, and greet the user there. I think moving the post is the right solution here.
That post is just setting off all kinds of alarm bells.
What are the odds that something could impersonate them in a way that gets their account banned? And if that really did happen, why on earth would they not be able to talk about it?
Shady AF.
Off topic is off topic. Removing a post for violating rules isn’t mean, it’s maintaining the integrity of the communities people come here for.
That post is just setting off all kinds of alarm bells.
yeah actually now that i look at it again, you might be right.
i kinda just saw “oh hey new user” and went into auto “treat them nicely” mode. didn’t actually note much what they wrote on their backstory
It’s a tell for delusional thinking/paranoia.
I think it’s more indicative of pathological lying
They came from Reddit, communities having their own rules which you’re supposed to read before posting isn’t an alien concept to them. I believe it’s justified to expect that much from them.
Also, that post was restored pretty much right after it got removed.
Many people complain that there isn’t enough content on here, yet many people also expect all new users to not only share their beliefs, but know how the Threadiverse works before joining.
If the Threadiverse is to grow, people need to be patient with new users, ensuring they are well-informed with an informational DM at the very least if their post must be taken down. People also can’t expect all new users to fit squarely within the relatively niche set of interests the Threadiverse currently caters best to.
ensuring they are well-informed with an informational DM at the very least if their post must be taken down.
I try to average a post a day, spread around a loose collection of maybe a dozen communities. In the past month I’ve goofed twice, and posted something that didn’t quite fit the theme, or contained AI content that I didn’t notice at the time (it was a really good, topical comic, but was also an AI copy of the original, oof). Both times the posts were deleted, which was fine, but no mod note was given, not even to gruffly say “watch it, bub.”
Good, communicative, active mods are hard to find anywhere, but I reckon the relative lack(?) of such across the FV probably has an unfortunate knock-on effect in that it can discourage new-ish users, even just by accident. This was an easy example above, but as I see it, few communities around here have the actual luxury of not being welcoming and supportive where possible. OTOH, a quality mod to my mind requires a combination of experience, personality and skillset. Plus the ability (or imperviousness) to wade through shite, sometimes. Where are they coming from? Because along with more users, the FV could also use more mods, if only at this point to fill in positions for mods who’ve vamoosed and are now inactive.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
I’ve been trying to fill the void left by dubvee.org being taken down with periodic posts to !westvirginia@lemmy.world, but in the long run there’s far too many communities on here that rely on one or two users for content.
A related, significant issue, yes.
Sometime back I had the idea that perhaps a group of us could pledge posting to a smallish set of communities that were great /c’s in themselves, but needed a bit of help with content. My idea is that we’d each rotate between a group of communities, taking turns posting there so that no one person needed to be responsible for any certain place. Frequency of posting would simply be on some kind of regular basis, maybe anywhere from one post a week from each of us, to posting every day.
Things haven’t been great for me lately, so I’m lagging in that project, but at some point I’d like to git 'er going. If that sounds interesting to you, keep your eye on !fedigrow@lemmy.zip, yeah?
Just nuke asklemmy. Those mods must have migrated here when StackOverflow lost traffic.
we’re already having a problem of not getting enough new users
The best way to attract new users is to have not just a quantity of content but a curated feed of quality content. Part of that means ensuring users’ posts end up in the correct community. If you just allow people to post whatever they want, wherever they want, that’s going to drive users away.
PieFed allows mods to move posts from one community to another.
Actually I think hexbear might too, as it runs a custom-modified fork of Lemmy.
Mods have enough to deal with. If getting a single post removed turns someone away from the platform because they couldn’t be arsed to read the rules or search again for the right community, that’s probably a net benefit for the entire Lemmy community.
Your account is five days old. So I don’t think your message here carries a lot of weight unfortunately. That post is violating the community rules as well. And the account defended itself to not be a bot when no one accused it of that. So it’s probably not a great case to use to start a warm welcome campaign.
Former redditors should be familiar with something like forum rules and how to check them.
yeah i basically fucked up and sent a direct link to my old account to a couple people that i know irl. after considering that this is not good, i had to make an alt.
also thanks for recognizing me, that makes me proud.
Yeah, I never know if people write genuine, stereotypical posts like that. Or if that’s bot activity. Being adamant not to be a bot is kinda what bots do.
Could we make a quick start guide like they have for mastodon? https://fedi.tips/
Thank you for this. I will make the extra effort to steer new accounts here that get posts removed from where I moderate.
This is a much better idea than not removing posts.
I guess that’s not enough. Software needs to be more self-explanatory.
we’re already having a problem of not getting enough new users
Why is this a problem? Right now lemmy is small enough to mostly not draw attention from bots. It’s also small enough that blocking people can actually shape the type of comments you see.
It’s not a problem if you’re into
- (leftist) US politics
- Linux and other IT topics
- Star Trek
- German Memes
As soon as you try to talk anybody else, you might find you struggle to have a community large enough to sustain a conversation
Point thoroughly taken, thank you for changing my mind.
Sometimes I open threads with 6+ comments and there’s nothing there because I blocked them all. Bliss.
yep, where’s the gaming community’s, the non doomer ai tech community, the political compass memes?
Should fediverse stay a niche “project” for idealists? Or should it become an actual alternative?
I would really like for it to become a proper reddit alternative, but that is not happening. Less because of the platform and more because of the people.
Collectively this has already been answered.
But… The post wasn’t deleted, it’s still there. At least it appears so for me.
oh yeah you’re right, it got restored.
That gets in the way of the narrative though
Yes, I see it as well, looks like the mod just said to “read the rules”
What other reasons can be given for post deletion? Lemmy isn’t worse off due to that post no longer being here.
The graph is surprising, I expected the opposite, due to reddit becoming more and more reddity every day, along with the current political/social climate in multiple countries. It seems a good time for people to want something different.
Honestly, I use Reddit more now that I’m also on the threadiverse. There’s active local content and more Reddits and posts tied to the genres of books I read. Yes, I should be the change I want to see, but there’s only so much of that I can do.
That’s counterbalanced by the fact Lemmy is acquiring more and more of a reputation as a tankie bar.
When I made an instance, I decided not to advertise it as a particular platform. It’s MULTIVERSE, it’s a social media app, that’s pretty much what you need to know.
yeah the “tankie bar” issue is a real problem.
If lemmy is getting a “reputation as a tankie bar” and that is keeping the type of people away who repeatedly regurgitate tankie, leftist etc, that will lower the quantity of users, but the quality ratio will improve.
All My friends are anarchists who hate tankies and avoid Lemmy because of the tankies.
The first part is very unlikely to be true, the second part is probably not a bad thing for lemmy, your “anarchist” friends are most likely much more at home on twitter, facebook, instagram etc.
Good thing you found this forum for complaints.
i’m not complaining about mods or sth, just as a general viewpoint of how to treat new useres.
