When women riders and drivers told us they wanted more control over how they ride and earn, we listened. That feedback led to Women Preferences, features designed to give women the choice to ride with other women. Since our first pilots last summer, we’ve heard just how much that choice matters—from feeling more comfortable in the back seat to more confident behind the wheel.
can males avoid women drivers or is that considered sexist? what if a male wants to mitigate the chance of being falsely accused of assault/rape? I hope people have the choice regardless of gender
edit: the downvotes are funny… I assume people think I mean women should not have the choice, but I mean the opposite. EVERYONE should have a choice, or no one. it’s call being fair. rape/sexual assault is not a good scenario for anyone and if people are fearful, they should be allowed to make a choice that allows them to feel comfortable. the downvotes just show me that people are disrespectful/not caring when it comes to fairness and equality. l… or they are just flat out sexist pricks.
I downvoted you because it’s always a certain type of person to go on about men being “fAlSeLy AcCusEd of Rape.”
It might be considered sexist, depending on who you ask.
The amount of males being falsely accused of sexual assault is much lower than the amount of females being exposed to sexual assault. Hence why there has been provided a measure for women at this scale, and not for men.
As a penis haver who has been falsely accused of sexual assault, it’s far more common than you think.
I’m sorry that you had to go through that, and I must emphasize that I do not wish to “let” anyone be exposed to this. However, I remain unconvinced that it’s “more common than I think”. The amount of sexual assault that women are exposed to is unfortunately far, far more common, and a bigger problem that should take precedence in being dealt with.
So how does fucking men out of that option help women? It’s not a zero-sum game. You must have a certain ulterior motive, the subtext is that you want innocent men to be accused of rape to take revenge for the innocent women who were raped.
Not hard to read that sort of thing, and I don’t care how many downvotes or anger this will provoke, I know you self-righteous folk, I know the truth.
But the fear of sexual assault is why women prefer women, so ain’t the fear of accusations a justifiable reason? Why does it have to be equal to matter?
Here: https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/media/pdfs/sexualviolence-brief.pdf
Men have so much less reason to fear compared to women. This is not saying they have nothing to fear, but the measures taken by uber is an attempt to protect those who are MUCH more prone to sexual assault and harassment.
The fear of accusations is not covered in this survey, nevertheless, if men feel fearful of accusations, imagine what women feel when they fear actually being sexually assaulted.
I do not agree this can be assumed.
And you know this because… vibes?
Don’t take my word for it; look it up. But here, I’ll save you some time by spending my own:
https://worldmetrics.org/false-rape-allegations-statistics/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/
https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/media/pdfs/sexualviolence-brief.pdf
Say out of 140 000 reports of rape in one year, 4% are false. That leaves us with 5600 false accusations. And according to the survey shown by CDC, there’s an estimated 1.4 million women raped in 12 months.
As a domestic abuser survivor (of a woman), a lot of us men are just not taken seriously. It is a lot like how people diminish one person’s pain/suffering just because it “isn’t as bad” as someone else’s pain. Men are absolutely abused, raped, and falsely accused. But because it happens to women more, we have to bear our suffering in silence.
No one is saying that men cannot be victims of harassment or assault.
However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.
How do you know that it is objectively true, if you also know these statistics are based around a culture that discourages men from reporting this problem?
And that’s why there should be a “no foreigners or blacks”-option.
Per RAINN, 57% of perpetrators are white. I’ll charitably imagine you’re attempting to point out perceived hypocrisy in gender vs race selection, but you’re perpetuating racist and xenophobic stereotypes. White men commit rape at more than twice the rate of black men, and naturally born citizens commit crimes at rates higher than both documented and undocumented immigrants.
If you want to make the case that it’s a discriminatory policy, you’re welcome to do so, but tying it to false perceptions of race is probably not the best move. It’s coming off as reactionary at best.
The actual argument is that it’s acceptable to discriminate against people of color because data shows they are considerably more violent than whites.
The same thing applies to discriminating against men because data shows they are considerably more violent than women.
Sexism and racism are okay if you have the data to back it up. Unless… this is a double standard and we’re allowing discrimination based on sex but not discrimination based on race?
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Always seems weird when people are more worried about accusations than sexual assault/harassement. The latter seems far more common ime, even if you are seen as a guy.
I think it’s a perspective thing.
Men are less likely to perceive themselves as potential SA victims (regardless of actual numbers): so the relative subjective “chance” of false accusations against them vs being victims themselves impacts their priorities.
I’ve been sexually assaulted multiple times over my life, all by women. I did not conceive of the actions as assault until I heard women’s claims, of the same actions, be accepted as a form of sexual assault. Men absolutely under report their sexual assault, especially as the definition continues to be expand, including more behaviors that men have already dismissed.
Why? Most people, most of the time, focus on the perceived threats to themselves. Men, some subgroup of men in particular, are at a higher risk of false accusations than of sexual assault. What is seen as a danger to them is likely what they’ll focus on. And that’s a very reasonable and fair thing to do. Is that not exactly what women do when they focus on the risk of sexual assault and not on the risk of false accusations?
Both are legitimate fears. Both make sense. Both should be respected but only one actually is, across society.
Are they? The former seems pretty much unheard of while the latter ain’t uncommon. I think the only subgroup of men where the risk of being “falsely” accused of SA is high are men who commit SA and just don’t believe it is SA. Of course perception of risk can vary and the (perceived) severity of the event matters as well.
So, if women can have the option not to ride with men, which is no problem. Then why can’t men have the option too?lWhat harm does it do to women if men can have the option as well?
There is no good way for me to interpret this, it must be an ulterior motive in there.
Either 1: the person saying that is a misandrist that, although they did have negative experiences with men, this does not justify their contemptfull attitude towards men, which they cover up under the excuse of protecting women.
2: They actually believe their gender should be have advantages. That just because they were born a certain gender, that gender should have advantages. Like, finding excuses for why the other gender deserves less.
3: They are afraid that giving men an equal option will make them seem like an Incel that is trying to make it seem like men are equally vulnerable for propaganda reasons, so they are afraid to choose the just and equal option, just because they are afraid of backlash. So men get dicked over for little good reason, because westerners see everything as zero-sum.
Yes. Higher risk of one thing over another does not mean high.
The rates of SA of men is also high. Its a common thing. Granted, perhaps not as common as men who commit SA.
I think you’re missing the basic definition of what a false accusation is, here. The whole point of it is that you didn’t do the thing that you’re being accused of.
Yeah that’s pretty ignorant of them. It might reduce the risk, because the circumstances make it harder to convincingly lie about, but it doesn’t ensure anything. One circumstance of uncertainty and a skilled and motivated individual is all it takes.
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You ever tried taking a little girl to the park when you identified as a man?
It gets really weird when complete strangers go up to her and ask her if she knows you.
They don’t do that when you present as a woman.
I have had this happen on reverse
I when I go boymode, with my mom at some place like shopping mall, I got weird looks because people thought we were a couple
This has never happened to me, and I take my daughter, and her friends to the park all the time…
And I’ve hung out with plenty of men and they’ve never sexually assaulted me…
Yeah? So what?
Just because one person doesn’t experience something doesn’t invalid that others do, even when a majority do.
OP asked ‘has this ever happened to you?’ . I replied with my experience. Third poster replied with random non relevant experience of something not happening. I reply ‘so what?’. You feel the need to validate third poster…profit???
The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.
So a women getting raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.
And that is only counting all the instances where the rape got reported.
LOL how could you possibly know that?
Not sure what you’re getting at here. Do you think this is some sort of competition for who is the biggest victim? And only the victor should be granted “equality”?
people just… don’t get it. I’m shocked everytime I mention equality, and get met with the above nonsense. lol
I will never understand people’s thought processes. if I said no women should have this, sure… but I’m asking for everyone to have the same right, like… what?
Forget it, humans are a lost cause. They should be allowed to go extinct.
LOL of course not. Equality for me, not for thee.
This is the shit that makes men look bad.
Men absolutely do not experience sexual harassment at the same level that women do.
It’s not close at all.
Why can’t we just let the women have a dub without being all “buhhh what about da men???”
And women don’t experience accusations of sexual harrassment at the same level that men do.
Men also experience plain physical assault at ~5x the rate of women.
Why can’t we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?
As much as you want to try to paint men as the victims, they’re just not.
Yes, it happens. No it does not happen nearly as frequently.
This issue is extremely skewed toward women.
People of all types are victims of various stereotypes.
What does this even mean lmao
I just don’t see this need to want to be a victim.
It’s not that complicated roflcopter. I don’t know how to break it down any further.
Why would you think anyone wants to be a victim?
Because you’re bending over backwards to try to show men as the victims of rampant sexual harassment when it overwhelmingly occurs to women.
Men are not being victimized here, women are just getting relief
nobody is painting men as the victims anymore then they are painting women as victims.
women get raped more often, I wouldn’t deny that.
men get accused of raping when nothing happened and get dragged through hell more often then women do.
what’s wrong with equality? seriously… what’s wrong with it? no one asked for women to not have the service/choice, only to extend it for everyone. lol you’re mentally stuck on one issue and just refuse to see it as a whole picture. it’s kinda sad really.
At least part of it is because of people like you who get upset whenever someone challenges the grossly inequitous status quo.
You’re the one advocating for inequality.
Things aren’t equal now. You don’t want that to change.
that’s literally why I bought up the topic of equality… and you’re resisting it because… actually there is no reason to resist equality.
What you brought up is an appeal to maintain the current iniquitous status quo, by suggesting that the real problem with men being the aggressors in the vast majority of sexual assaults isn’t the sexual assaults, but that some men might be falsely accused. But hey, if women want to protect themselves from that, we should legalise excluding them and reducing their service options in other areas, because you know, that’s what equality looks like…
The thing is, you don’t give a shit about the real world manifestation of inequality. What you want is a platonic ideal of equality, which doesn’t exist in the real world, and using it as the measure, just ensures that real world inequality stays around and never gets challenged, because people like you can point to the rules and say “We already have equality” .
“Equality” is not a totalitarian concept. Different people can be equal in some areas and unequal in others. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp.
So what you’re saying is that women being sexually harassed is just how it is in a society with equality?
Because if that’s not what you’re saying, I’m curious why you think a movement to reduce the disparity is a problem? Well, I’m not curious, I know the answer…
Are you an “All Lives Matter” clown? It sure reads that way.
are you trying to say being accused of sexual assault is the same as being sexually assaulted lmao
No. I did not, and am not roflcopter
That’s it, I’ve had it. Somebody get Joe Rogan in here so we can hash this out.