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    Ok so there are 3 microsoft products called copilot now. Surely this won’t confuse anyone

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      Are you including Github Copilot in that count? Technically that’s a Microsoft product. It’s probably the only Copilot that’s actually useful.

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        A controversial take. Every new feature added to Github has made it more unpleasant to use, and a lot of that is down to Copilot, for me. Only way to get rid of it is to wait for Github to go down again, which is the only thing it does reliably at the moment.

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          I get the Pro version for free since I’ve worked on a few popular open-source projects. I’m using it in VS Code and it’s helped me write code for systems I’m unfamiliar with. I’ve used it to summarize the architecture of open-source projects so I understand how to contribute new features. The autocompletion can be pretty good too. I also use it to review my code.

          We use Claude Code with the Opus 4.5 model at work, and it’s quite a bit better, but I don’t want to pay that much for an AI model for personal projects since I use it so infrequently.

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          Every new feature added to Github has made it more unpleasant to use

          Free private repositories, Github Actions, and Github Packages are all pretty useful though. All of those were added under Microsoft’s ownership. Actions got a head start because it was built on top of Azure DevOps infra that Microsoft had already created.

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            Free private repos were always available on Bitbucket (for example) before that though. The things added by Microsoft were all catch-up.

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              They lose money from it (people that used to pay for an account to get private repos no longer need to) which is why Github didn’t do it when they were independent.

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              Plenty of open-source projects that I use are happy with them though. I see far fewer projects using Travis CI and AppVeyor these days for example.

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          github also has the slowest, most unresponsive web interface ive ever used. it’s genuinely impressive how they made a web app so slow

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          controversial take.

          Nope, I agree, and so far you get only upvotes so… we agree.

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      How the hell else are PMs going to get positive reviews this quarter? Waiting for Excel, Word, Powerpoint and Windows to all be called Copilot

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    Damn, our customers don’t use copilot, but we promised to reach 50% usage in 2026…

    That’s it… Rename the whole thing to copilot and we achieve our goal!

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    Microsoft is reporting over 600 MILLION user growth on copilot, basically overnight! Wow, very impressive Mr Nadella. You’ve truly pushed AI adoption forward. Someone get this man a bonus!

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    It’s been named “Microsoft Office” since 1990. Way to piss 35 years of brand recognition up a wall.

    How drunk are these guys?

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      How drunk are these guys?

      Ask the dude that renamed Twitter to X (formerly Twitter).

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      What’s funny is their attempts to rebrand Office have just fallen completely flat. Kind of reminds me of when Willis Group bought the naming rights to Sears Tower and all the Chicagoan’s were just collectively like, “Yeah, No. We’re still going to call it ‘Sears Tower’.” Hell, nobody that I know of calls it “Willis Tower.” Nobody calls Microsoft Office “Office 365”. Nobody is going to call it “Microsoft 365 Copilot.” This is just a huge waste of effort by a tech firm that has long since run out of ways to be innovative.

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    Why couldn’t they just stick with Office… It’s 100% explanatory, short, and to the point.

    365 never made sense to me. Is it supposed to represent the year? Like available 24/7 but instead it’s there for you 365 days of the year? And if that’s the case why the fuck would I care? It’s software, of course it’s available to me whenever I want. It’s not a 7/11 hotdog rotisserie.

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    “Let’s take the most recognizable software package name and make it something totally divorced from what the software is supposed to be for.”

    There are probably people for whom Microsoft Office is the only desktop software that they use. There are probably many people in procurement that are going to scratch their heads and think twice about signing off on something that sounds like a flight simulator.

    This is an opportunity for alternate office suites.

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      Its is almost universally the main reason that even a lot of Linux daily-drivers still have a windows install available to them. They fuck up Office enough and there isn’t a reason to even have Windows for most users.

      That’s why they want you to put all your stuff in their dumb cloud, because its the only reason people would keep using this garbage, because they can hold your work ransom in their shitty ecosystem.

      That is the whole business model of tech now. Stealing your shit and selling it back to you. That is it.

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        Do what I did: vm your win machine inside linux. It’s how i solved my legacy software / game saves quandry. Just duplicated the win HDD and virtualised it.

        I dislike dual booting and will go a looong way to be lazy :P

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            They don’t just use office from the web, via Linux? You can access excel, word, …, all of that in a browser.

            I would not shut down my PC and boot into windows just for office. I keep my Windows around because my wife prefers it (for now).

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              I’m not one of the dual booters mentioned, but the desktop version of Excel specifically has several important features that the online version flat out doesn’t support. Primarily I’m talking about creating and running data queries, which is useful for analyzing data and generating reports from remote data sources including external files like CSV and online databases. You can do all this without Excel of course, but this shows the online versions are definitely limited.

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                'Twas ever so. Years ago (2012) when i was still working in an office we had web MS office to use for work…i ended up bringing in my laptop with full blown office just to get the fckn data manipulation we needed out of excel

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                That’s fair. I’ve dealt with that before, and in my case I had to rebuild the damn thing for compatibility with the web version. When I did, I was able to use alternatives like Power Query M instead of VBA. This worked in my case, but I’m sure you’re right that some features just aren’t there in any capacity.

                The external CSV thing is a PITA but you can (at least there) overcome it via adding a “landing sheet” for raw data. Nobody is going to want to deal with any of this, though.

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              They don’t just use office from the web, via Linux? You can access excel, word, …, all of that in a browser.

              Web office has barely any features compared to the desktop thing, iirc.

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              Yeah I think I’d be more likely to use WinBoat or something similar to run a virtual machine rather than fully boot into Windows.

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              office on the web sucks, lacks features, and basically defeats the purpose of using office at all

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      I don’t know many people that still call it “Microsoft Office”… They usually refer to the individual apps they use (Word, Excel) rather than the suite as a whole.

      Some people just call it “Microsoft” (“please install Microsoft on my computer”), especially if they’re on MacOS where it’s the only Microsoft software they use.

      Some people assume it’s part of Windows since they’ve only ever used computers that have had it preinstalled.

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      It’s like they’re trying to alienate their core customer base. Windows 8 may have been salvageable but Office is not.

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      For business, they’re locked into Excel, there is no substitute. I can see MS blowing out the remaining home users though.

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    Office is the last good branding Microsoft have and they’re just getting rid of it, I can’t believe it

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    We’re…never going to say any of that. It’s Microsoft 365, or 365 for short. Even that sounds stupid. Office is what people understand, 365 always requires explaining.

    MS is so exhausting.

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    C Suite is in a cult.

    Tons of Microsoft senior engineers have been resigning over this kinda shit.

    Not getting fired or laid off, though that’s happening too… resigning.

    Bill Gates himself has expressed significant dissapointment with where the company has gone and is going, thinks AI needs to be optional, its clearly not ready.

    … Everyone hates this other than C Suite, who are either psychotically delusional, in an actual AI worshipping cult (you’d be surprised how many tech high ups are in one), or, they simply hate us and want us to die, want to be the overlords of whatever is left after they basically destroy modern civilization.

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      Peak Business Idiot behavior. They’re too fucking stupid and caught up in the hype to notice that everything is on fire and their businesses are failing. The Line may be going up, but the companies are going DOWN.

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        Ahhhh… now I see.

        This is the “AI will one day take us all over!1!!” dystopia everyone feared.

        Except, instead of a hostile Skynet takeover, it’s just the CEOs of all the most powerful companies delegating over all their important business decisions to AI.

        Copilot is the one that renamed Office to Microsoft 365 Copilot app. It even sounds like something ChatGPT would come up with. The circle is a square.

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      It’s happening at a lot of companies. Last year our C-suite cancelled some big IR&D projects (where we were designing real products that could actually be built and sold) in order to dump $300k/mo into renting a cloud AI infrastructure that none of the employees want or use.

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          That will be much harder. The MBA is specifically designed and controlled by the biggest financial institutions to implement management in a way that always benefits them.

          They will never allow the MBA to die.

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            MBA is for people that are not too proficient in other degree fields, like STEM MS/MA. i always seen people in college that kinda washed out to a business degree because they cant hack it in another more rigorous major and also an easy major to complete and not get your gpa totally trashed, more common in a CC school, i always think what are they going to do with a “business degree” once they get it.

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            They will never allow the MBA to die.

            the concept? no. However denigration and discouragement will vastly stem the flow of sociopaths