I agree with you… its the people and the way they’ve basically conditioned themselves to act, not the LLM.

Also, to further confuse the metaphor:

You can’t dig your way out of a hole that you flooded, doesn’t matter how hard you pedal your mind bicycle.

I’m gonna try to say this gently:

Microsoft… is gone now.

The contradicted terminal corporate dementia.

They’re not going to be the same anymore.

… I used to work for them.

Something like was inevitable, given their highly cliquey and authoritarian corporate culture.

They’ve imploded under the weight of around two decades of accumulating technical debt, around two decades of the guys and gals that huffed the most farts getting the most promoted.

They are now primarily a member of the military industrial complex.

Microsoft claims to have fixed…

Via their own vibe-coding.

That supposedly fixed the vibe-coding attribution problem.

Mhm, yep, seems hunky dory to me!

Right.

Throw ‘fradulent’ in as an adjective before ‘subscription payment plan’.

Yep.

Unless somebody manages to … inject a hostile/unauthorized LLM as a mod or admin or something, in an instance they’re not an admin of, in a comm they’re not a mod of…

Then people react by personally blocking or perhaps instance wide defederating or maybe conceiveably someone actually uses this in a generally good way, to identify trolls/sock puppets.

As to… LLM scraping of comments?

Lemmy is public, anyone can do that.

I’ve done it to myself with a local LLM hooked up to a search engine, and I’m not a mod or admin of anything.

Hence why you probably should use a pseudonym and not give too much information about yourself, if you’re concerned about privacy… same… rules the internet has always had.

I suppose that instances could implement various anti-scraping measures, but that’s never going to be 100% effective as scrapers vs anti-scrapers has also basically always been a constantly escalating arms race.

No no no.

This is fine.

Because you have nothing to worry about if you’ve done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide.

Because mass surveillance apparati are never wrong, and no one ever uses them improperly.

Therefore, everyone who disagrees with me is a paranoid nutjob.

^^^ fucking braindead morons for at least the last 20 years ^^^

Its the place where you go in capitalism land to pick your favorite brand/flavor of subscription payment plan for the ability to not die from an injury or health condition, but instead become chronically impoverished, or become a functional indebted slave laborer.

Yes.

This is why people have been screaming about ‘its only your meta data we are sharing’ being a crock of horseshit for over a decade now, because meta data + data analysis = very high confidence of actual PII.

But we didn’t listen to those paranoid nerds, so now we live in hell.

Oh also literally every company or organization does this with all the data they can legally (or sometimes illegally) do this with.

They get a slap on the wrist, sometimes… data is very profitable.

Oh and Palantir has all of this kind of data, if that makes you feel better.

Old internet addage: If you’re getting something for free, you are the product.

Oh oh bonus:

The laws around this will never change unless basically everyone in the country with a net worth of ~$250 million or greater suddenly dies.

.crom

Crom.crom

… It offers nothing.

Also .slash, because chaos must reign.

Ohh!

How about .— for all the LLMs to create their own deepweb on?

We can just call the realworld version of the Blackwall the EmWall, fittingly more stupid and annoyingly named than anything in actual cyberpunk, as seems to be the writing style for our timeline.

Oh I’m not implying, I’m directly stating it.

If you cannot go 24 hrs, 48 hrs, a week, without using a phone for anything other than making actual phone calls on it, you have a problem and need, at bare minimum, a hobby.

I’d suggest reading whole books.

There is so much literature on how massive (especially shortform) social media use destroys your ability to concentrate, lessens your attention span, causes addiction, and is intentionally designed to cause addiction.

Its literally come out in court, fairly recently.

If you can’t hit pause on this on your own, yeah, you need help.

At this point, I don’t know where that help is going to or should come from, but I know an addict when I see one.

Because I am one.

I’m addicted to nictoine, I start getting real pissy around the 24 hr cold turkey mark.

I certainly would count myself amongst those who would need actual help to actually quit.

Difference here being, my nicotine habit isn’t and wasn’t tolerated or accepted in public school, I did that shit to myself, a decade afterward, as a legally/socially self responsible adult.

Uh wait uh Mr Jacket Clown Man, wasn’t this kind of your plan?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2026/03/25/trump-taps-zuckerberg-huang-and-ellison-for-white-house-ai-panel-report-says/

You… you’re on the advisory panel.

For AI policy.

… ?

In the future, memory will cost nothing because we will just assume no human beings have any.

• Mr Jacket Clown Man, at some point, presumably.

Oh, well, most adults being paid to pefrom their role, their tasks and duties, at a job, most of them are essentially de facto capable of role modelling proper phone usage, otherwise they’d be fired.

You just don’t use it while you’re actively working, you know, actively engaged in the act of teaching a lesson, overseeing a lab day, etc.

If a teacher was constantly on their phone, while they’re supposed to be teaching, they’d get reported and reprimanded and eventually fired.

This isn’t disingenuous, to hold this assumption… this is how things have worked for a long time.

Yeah, yeah a construction or transport crew should also have restrictions on distracted driving or otherwise operating a multi ton vehicle, yes, same as a forklift operator.

They should be fired if they egregiously violate safety protocols.

Systems exist and have existed to do this.

The problem that is going on in schools is that a combination of over-exhausted and underpaid teachers, combined with incompetent/corrupt admins have just looked the other way on this for so long that its become a problem not only in schools, but also all the places those kids who went to those schools go after they’ve graduated.

The solution is not to equivocate, the solution is having higher standards.

And just to be clear: addictive behaviors and patterns start in adolescence, and then progress and worsen and broaden when they are not identified and addressed.

This is … very widely the consensus of all kinds of studies into all kinds of addiction.

So having teachers model proper usage of the useful but potentially very addictive device… is arguably the most important area of society to do this with.

If you want a society that isn’t constantly distracted by their rectangles… you should exemplify to them how to properly use the rectangles from a young age.

I’m sorry, is there a massive problem of adult teachers and staff at school being constantly glued to and distracted by their phones such that it prevents them from teaching and doing what they are otherwise there to do?

No?

… Maybe the critics can ask ChatGPT what a false equivalence is.

We had early smart phones back I was in high school.

We also had this rule.

Its fine.

If its not fine, you have an addiction problem, and should seek help.

… but when MSFT employees hold their own protest, in their place of work, against MSFT software being used to murder Palestinians, some months before this, they get arrested.

https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-azure-gaza-israel-protests-49a0dd5905a1cf16eb3e19a98ca17d50

They got arrested of course because precious, precious property was mildly inconvenienced, and the cops made up lies about them.

They wanted somebody else to be ultimately liable for problems, not themselves.

They wanted less headcount, especially amongst employees that are more intelligent than they are.

They wanted to handle things via gladhandling and ‘business negotiations’, not actual strategy snd design.

Yep.

Its… pretty much apocalyptic.

C Suite finally ‘won’; they decided they could do the job of engineers.

They can’t, of course, but their hubris will burn down the world before they admit they don’t know something.

I am not clever enough to phrase this reply as an antagonistic acronym, but yes I did mean it as a compliment, hahaha!

lol, +1 for Ron Perlman.

Seems fitting for it to be his voice to usher us into a really just slightly different kind of apocalypse.

Its like you could make a cheesy shock drama 90s style TV show out of these:

Tales From The Git: When CEOs Think They Can Code

… and then its like the UNSOLVED MYSTERIES kind of dramatic music and lighting, have some old solemn dude with a gravelly voice narrate it, give tallies of estimated amount of $$$ destroyed by each incident, job losses within 6 months to a year.

NW USA, Seattle area is where most of my dialect/experience is from.