One example is bread. I was baking bread the other day, and obviously the cost of the ingredients I put in the loaf are less than the cost of buying a loaf at the supermarket, but that doesn’t include the cost of putting the oven on.
Or dry beans vs canned beans; does the cost of boiling the beans actually bring the cost up to be equivalent to canned beans?
I know that everyone’s energy costs are different so it’s not possible for someone to do the calculations for you, but I’ve never bothered to do them for my own case because bills I get from the energy company just tell me how much I owe them for the month, not “you put the oven on for 30 minutes on the 17th of June and that cost you X”. It sounds like a headache to try calculate how much I pay for energy per meal. But if someone else has done that calculation for themselves I’d be interested to read it and see how it works out. My intuition is that, in general, it’s cheaper to make things yourself (e.g. bread or beans like above), but I couldn’t say that for sure without calculating, which as I said seems like it would be a pain in the ass.
I think I did napkin math once that included cost of labour, and surprise surprise, mass production works. Just the energy is a good point too, though.
It sounds like energy pretty cheap right now. But, it’s also artificially cheap unless you have a lot of renewables on your grid, and somebody somewhere is going to pay for those emissions.
I didn’t do bread - maybe I should reconsider that one, per the other users here.
I’m a cook as a hobby, so typically the cost of making vs buying does not figure into my decision, except when things at the store get absurdly expensive.
A case in point: Toasted Sliced Salted Salad Almonds from Fresh Gourmet
My wife and I love these on our dinner salads so we go through a lot of them. The cost of a package of these salad almonds has risen to $7 for a 3.5oz (99g)package.
I can buy a 16oz (454g) package of raw almonds for almost the same amount of money, as the 3.5oz (99g) Fresh Gourmet package. I have an electric oven that consumes around 5kwh that runs for roughly 30 minutes during preparation and my daytime electric rate is around $0.13/kwh (I think).
Out of that I get a full pound (16oz, 454g) of salted almonds for ~$7.07 and 30 minutes of my time. I also use about $0.02 worth of salt, bringing the total cost to ~$7.09 for 4.5 times more almonds.
I also can adjust the amount of salt on them as well, as typically my wife and I like less salt that most people.
It’s also fun to do.
On the dry beans vs canned beans issue, I am firmly in the “it depends” camp. If you don’t plan your meals ahead of time, then dry beans become difficult to cook as you need to soak them overnight and take much longer to cook. The price of dry beans can be significantly cheaper, but strangely, not so much at a normal grocery store. I found that buying dried beans in bulk or in large bags is wildly cheaper, but most standard grocery stores (in the US) don’t offer them like that so your savings are minimal and don’t justify the the extra prep to me.
I have been the home cook for 6 people for years on a tight budget so I do this a lot.
For me it really comes down to sales and effort. I really can’t beat a $.99 pound of pasta making it myself, I have tried. So i buy things like pasta, bread, tofu that I could make but the savings if any would be minimal especially after factoring in time.
Instead i use the time to make the more expensive dishes, things like pickled onions and slow roasted meats for my carnivores and compound butters and sauces and dressings. These elevate the meals and i’m able to make them far cheaper than I could buy them so the time spent ends up being worth it.
Sometimes there are sales that move all this math. My kroger just had a sale on salmon cakes, something my meat eaters love but i normally would make myself. But on sale for $2 each, i bought like 10 of them for the freezer they will be massive time savers in a pinch and will come in under what i could have prepared them for because of the sale!
I’ve been making bread regularly for years. A 1-lb loaf costs me about 90 cents USD for ingredients and 15 cents to run the oven. “Nice” Safeway bakery loaves that roughly correspond to what I make cost anywhere from $3-$6, and the whole process takes me 10-15 minutes of actual effort (including cleanup). I don’t count rising and baking times because I’m doing other stuff.
Having also consumed a lot of packaged food (I’m not a crusader against it) I would say cooking meals from store-bought ingredients costs around half as much. Home-growing vegetables adds a huge amount more work. I did a garden for 2 years, many years ago - it was more of a fun project. On the scale I did it I never felt the hours of labor paid off dollar-wise. And what with mulch and other things gardening is something you can pretty much spend as much money on as you want lol.
Fun fact: if you go to the deli counter and get them to slice meat for you it’s about half the price of the store-brand deli packs on the shelves, which are the exact same meats, sliced and packaged by the same people. The only difference is you stand there waiting for a minute while they do it instead just grabbing it off the shelf. The high price of even marginal convenience.
I think, but cannot be certain, that is includes some energy cost.
It really is excellent.
DIY bread is a real winner. Costs me about $1.05 to make a 1-lb loaf. That includes flour, yeast, salt, and gas to run the oven. An equivalent quality loaf of Safeway bakery bread costs anywhere from 3 to 6x that much. And it’s like 10-12 minutes of actual effort, including cleanup. I also make hoagy-style sandwich loaves, soft dinner rolls and other things. Same basic recipe, just a few minutes more effort to handle the dough differently. I’m totally addicted to fresh bread.
The costs of running an oven for an hour is probably costing you like 40 cents and most of that is pre heating. Buy a bread maker or a toaster oven to make your loaves in and it will be less than half that. For most cooking, the electricity used is a rounding error.
I figure more like 15 cents to bake a loaf of bread (gas oven, 15 minutes preheat, 30 minutes bake). Maybe another 20 cents if I rise it in the oven. In cold weather running the oven is essentially free, since the heat stays in the house and the furnace runs correspondingly less. In warm weather I just leave the kitchen door open to let the excess heat out.
Depending where you live, you may also need to heat your house anyway, so you really aren’t losing any energy at all by using the oven.
You also have to factor in the cost of your time. If it takes longer with one or the other that needs consideration too.
I kind disagree. I admit that e.g. growing your own veg will never be cheaper than buying it at a supermarket - it would make financial sense to spend a few more hours working instead, and just buy the veg, but that kind of misses the point. Gardening, cooking, DIY… they all have a certain satisfaction and self-sufficient pride to them that money can’t buy
Yes, you’re allowed having hobbies. Not everybody is looking to do it because they love it, though, and people plowing massive time into saving a few bucks with DIY projects is a very real thing. So, it’s probably good OP mentioned it.
Also most people can’t throttle their work hours as needed like that. We cook during free time - free as in both speech and beer.
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Yeah, that’s a factor that is fairly easy to calculate though. And for myself, I’m happy to spend more time within reason. I cook fairly high-effort meals if I think the effort (and time) will pay off. I was mostly asking about energy costs as that’s something I feel is quite hard to quantify properly. With time you know exactly how long it takes and can ask yourself whether or not it’s worth it for you.
I don’t have a calculation to back it up, but I’m inclined to believe store bought will always have a cheaper production cost. Your can of beans wasn’t made by one person per one can of beans at a time. It is done in a factory producing millions of cans. That kind of industrial process will always be cheaper. It’s designed to be that way. Beans can be bought wholesale below the cost available to you. And with that operation at scale it will undoubtedly be more energy efficient per can of beans. The consumer cost is something else. You will save money buying the raw ingredients and making your own beans rather than buying canned.
I tried with muffins. I have been really into muffins, but it was $7 for a 4 pack. So I bought some mix, eggs, oil, etc., and made my own. I think it came out to a little less than $2 per muffin, which is pretty similar to the original, not to mention I don’t have any dishes.
https://healthyfamilycookin.blogspot.com/2013/05/frugal-friday-cost-analysis-of-dried.html
I’m interested to know what power company doesn’t give price for a kWh nor how many kWh you used in a billing period. It was essential when I made the switch to an EV and had to show my wife how much money we saved with electric vs gasoline.
If you don’t know what your electric appliance uses to cook, you can get energy monitors that can give you the exact amount. I have an emporia car charger and a plug monitor for my mower batteries. It’s as simple as setting you electricity rate in the app and setting the view to currency costs. Here’s my recent usage for mowing my yard ~2 acres:
It usually costs me $0.30 to mow and trim a week compared to gasoline equivalent of my old mower and trimmer of just over a gallon per week. I pay $0.14478/kWh where I live, gas is currently $2.899/ gal. The break even for my car in efficiency is gasoline has to be around $1.50/gal iirc.
I’m interested to know what power company doesn’t give price for a kWh nor how many kWh you used in a billing period.
Oh I get that too, I just meant that I don’t get a more detailed breakdown, just total kWh usage in a month and price. So I can’t see energy usage by day etc. I’d have to do calculations based on my oven specs and the cost of energy. Which is possible but I’m simply not bothered to do that.
Not sure if you noticed, or if sorghum noticed, but the link about dried beans they had in their reply refers to another blog post about your question. The author found that yes, homemade bread is cheaper when considering electricity costs, but obviously YMMV depending on power costs and the price of equivalent store-bought bread
https://healthyfamilycookin.blogspot.com/2011/12/is-making-homemade-bread-saving-me.html
Thanks. It’s why I showed what energy monitors can do to measure usage and make calculations easy. I knew home cooking from scratch was cheaper just from a budget standpoint, it’s just that I has never quantified it. I had done the paralell EV to gasoline cost analysis though, which is why I shared that.
Always go homemade if you can. As much as possible. Premade shit is doo-doo for your body.
What’s wrong with, say, canned beans in water? I feel like you’re painting with too broad a brush there.
shrug i cook for myself because it generally tastes better than a good 80% of restaurants in my area, usually for less money. My finances are (thankfully) not so tight that I’m calculating how much it costs to keep an oven on for 30 minutes.
Not really, no.
Mainly because my mother-in-law has read/seen one too many horror stories on the state of eatery kitchens and insists on home cooked food 24/7.
To us, the electricity and gas bill is the cost of assurance that all our food is fresh, clean and healthy.
on dry beans v canned beans
Absolutely no comparison! In any cooking method, the energy cost is a few cents, but cooking from dry is 6-8x cheaper.
