• bthest@lemmy.world
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    I’m very sympathetic to the crap waste people have to deal with but, yeah you can buy a dash cam at wal-mart. Please get that shit off your trucks. You can do it. I mean accidents happen you know. Cameras go missing all the time. I mean you are the waste management experts.

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    Don’t know if it’s these “AI cameras”, but my garbage company started uploading videos of my “violations” to their portal to justify charging me more (bin was open a few inches a couple times). They have video of them picking up the bin (showing my car plates and house in the back), and also of the bin contents from another camera after they dump it into the truck.

    I can only assume they’re working on the “threw a non-recyclable item in recycle bin” logic so they can charge more protect the environment.

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      To clock: to register on a mechanical recording device

      Code violations: things about a property that do not meet standards according to local ordinances

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      But you see, they’re not regulating the corporations. That’s the big difference.

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    The engineers behind these things need to be heavily blacklisted. “Oh yeah, Justin. He was one of the software engineers behind the garbage truck cameras. Toss his resume in the trash. Erica worked for Flock, toss hers too.”

    Employers are already doing this, but I’d love to see it become more prevalent.

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      You’d have to make engineer a protected title for that and enforce membership and chartership with your locally recognised engineering institutions to allow working under the title. They do that in Queensland Australia. It’s not enforced in our other states, which is odd given Queensland is Australia’s Florida …

      Getting a job as an engineer in the UK was hard work because every ridiculous job and it’s dog was claiming to be an engineering role. The guy terminating a wall socket for your internet connection: telecoms engineer apparently. Rough gig for having burnt 5 years at university …

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        I’d like this but for the news. Want to say your broadcast is news? It has to adhere to factual standards then. Otherwise it’s entertainment.

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        We have this in the states but the title is Professional Engineer. Which is the best way of going about it because making “Engineer” a protected title on its own makes no sense.

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          PE is a funny sore spot for me. It’s almost impossible to obtain if you’re not working with other PEs, which is unfortunately the vast majority of engineering roles. I think we have one in my company and he’s in a different state. I have a master’s degree in EE and 15 years working as an RF engineer, but I’ll still see a handful of people saying we’re not real engineers because we’re not holding a PE license we’ll never need.

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            I similarly roll my eyes when people complain about jobs like network engineers and software engineers because the PE guys don’t even like that they have engineer in the name when the word engineer just mean roughly “Guy who designs things”. Like the hubris needed to try and co-opt a generally applicable word to just a hyperspecific purpose lol

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          A professional engineer would be someone who’s chartered with a recognised engineering institution (Engineers Europe and it’s related Orgs in Europe, Engineering Council and related orgs in the UK, Engineers Australia in Australia etc) and the title would depend on the what the institution want to call them. The professional instution outlines ethical and behavioural requirements to maintain membership.

          An Engineer usually refers to someone who does a job related to design and planning for a technical discipline (civil, mechanical, structural, electrical, software etc). The job role usually requires a degree in he engineering disciple, but if you were a particularly fantastic and experienced technical person you might be able to fill the role without one. There will likely be areas of knowledge where you’d be lacking in that case though.

          I’m saying the job role could be made to require the chartership to help enforce adherence to the ethical requirements of those governing institutions.

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            The problem with that is that “Engineer” is too broad a term to require chartership in every single unrelated discipline.

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              Unrelated discipline? Why would you claim to be an engineer if your work was not related to engineering?

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                It would make sense to call yourself an engineer if it’s your job to engineer things, which by definition means to design any kind of complex system for some kind of practical use.

                “Engineering” is not itself a discipline (branch of study), but instead a category of disciplines. Civil, mechanical, industrial, chemical, and electrical are the core five disciplines that people typically associate with the term engineering, but you can engineer complex logical systems as well, like software or computer networks, and an infinite number of others.

                My point is that trying to gate by protected title “Engineer” on its own is impractical because it’s just a broad concept. It makes more sense for each discipline to create some sort of licensing system and protected title that conforms to that particular discipline.

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                  I see what your saying. It’s a broad concept but the process for professional recognition can accommodate that. The topic at question is how do we ensure engineers are ethical in how they operate and professional registration and protection of the role along with the assurances that go with that are a good way to achieve it. I know in law in Australia you must be registered with the local law regulator to practice and members must adhere to strict ethical standards. If you are reported and found to be breach those standards you will not be able to practice any more. Meanwhile engineers are polluting and building weapons ad nauseum with limited repercussions. Engineers are held accountable in most regions legally but laws usually apply to safety, not building/designing unethical things.

                  So I find the UK a good example of how professional registration can be done well. Each discipline has an organisation that handles chartership specific to that discipline. The IET does a lot of lifting for all things electrical, including communications/telecoms, but I believe they would cover some software engineering depending on what your focus was. BCS, CISec or IfSE would likely cover most software engineering.

                  My experience tends to be with the IET. They are internationally recognised and have branches in a lot of countries. If you have no local support within your company they will connect you with an existing chartered member in your field who can help with advice and chartership application review. I know with Engineers Australia you can migrate your chartership from the IET to Engineers Australia without too much difficulty. Engineers Australia is a single organisation for all disciplines which is then open to the issues you mention. The UK orgs are all regulated by the engineering council which manages a consistent specification for all orgs to hold their members to, the orgs then review applications specific to the discipline against the requirements of the spec.

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      Not gonna lie… If I got a good candidate, who is well qualified and not asking a ridiculous salary… I would hire them even if they worked for these evil companies.

      They won’t be working for them anymore if I hire them anyways.

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    Why don’t we use this surveillance to nail the big companies that are polluting to the wall? (Because we are ruled by the worst among us.)

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    The Schizophrenic who believes the garbage men are spying on him is going to fucking lose it!

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    Will they take a picture before or after the fuckers in the truck somehow manage to fling my cans into the drainage ditch again

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      They’ll take a pic afterwards and then fine you for polluting the runoff

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    Yet another reason to move to the boonies where the only garbage truck is your own beater every couple weeks.

    And you accidentally turn a whipped cream container into a steam rocket.

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      Good news, the flock camera on every corner will be tracking you and looking for any violations with your truck.

      And by good, I mean bad.

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        Lol. Lmao even.

        A flock camera in a rural area will end up like a stop sign in a rural area. Full of bulletholes.

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          I thought so too. I live in the rural southeast. Those things are at every major intersection and about half of the rest of them.

          Maybe the people that don’t mind shooting stuff will learn what they are and take them out. So far the only people I’ve heard about doing that are some kids from one of the local colleges getting arrested for it. Don’t know what happened after that tbh. But most country people are total bootlickers for the cops, as long as they keep the browns out

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            It’s not rural until your town contracts a county sheriff for a handful of hours a week and otherwise has no police force! Literally not enough funding for a flock deal around these parts lol. If all these intersections ur talking about have paved roads, lights, and bullet hole free signs we may have different definitions of rural!

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              Yeah that’s fair, I’m talking southeast rural. I have spent some time in Alaska, and that’s something else, that’s for sure.

              I assure you our stop signs are appropriately peppered by buckshot, but you can’t go ten miles without going by a flock camera. But relatively, nothing’s that far apart down here, and you can’t go too far without crossing a state highway.

              But our good ol’ boys are far more interested in harassing minorities than disrupting government surveillance.

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      Some small towns councils/shires can be even more intrusive and nosy than those in the city, because they have fuck all else to do.

      My dad lives in a small town of 30 people and the shire is nosy as fuck.

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      Hmmm. A wall of those tall skinny evergreen topiaries run across the front edge of the lawn would be nice. Put in a little white picket gate with flowerboxes for effect.

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    My city has them now. A friend of mine got flagged for overfilled bins. Before it only flagged you if the driver did, and the driver only would if it was egregious. The AI doesn’t GAF and reports fucking everything apparently.