Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

  • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
    115·
    2 days ago

    This definitely will not add in any way to the way women and girls are made to feel entirely disgustingly dehumanized by every man or boy in their lives. Groups of men and boys reducing them and their bodies down to vivid sexual fantasies that they can quickly generate photo realistic images of.

    Sexual attraction doesn’t necessarily involve dehumanization. Unlike most other kinds of interest in a human being, it doesn’t require interest in their personality, but these are logically not the same.

    In general you are using emotional arguments for things that work not through emotion, but through literal interpretation. That’s like using metric calculations for a system that expects imperial. Utterly useless.

    If the person in the image is underaged then it should be classified as child pornography.

    No, it’s not. It’s literally a photorealistic drawing based on a photo (and a dataset to make the generative model). No children have been abused to produce it. Laws work literally.

    If the woman who’s photo is being used hasnt consented to this then it should be classified as sexual exploitation.

    No, because the woman is not being literally sexually exploited. Her photo being used without consent is, I think, subject of some laws. There are no new fundamental legal entities involved.

    Women and girls have faced degrees of this kind of sexual exploitation by men and boys since the latter half of the 20th century. But this is a severe escalation in that behavior. It should be illegal to do this and it should be prosecuted when and where it is found to occur.

    I think I agree. But it’s neither child pornography nor sexual exploitation and can’t be equated to them.

    There are already existing laws for such actions, similar to using a photo of the victim and a pornographic photo, paper, scissors, pencils and glue. Or, if you think the situation is radically different, there should be new punishable crimes introduced.

    Otherwise it’s like punishing everyone caught driving while drunk for non-premeditated murder. One is not the other.

          • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
            42·
            22 hours ago

            Suppose I’m a teenager attracted to people my age. Or suppose I’m medically a pedophile, which is not a crime, and then I would need that.

            In any case, for legal and moral purposes “why would you want” should be answered only with “not your concern, go eat shit and die”.

            • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              19 hours ago

              I feel like you didn’t read my comment thoroughly enough. I said it can constitue CSAM. There is a surprising amount of leewat for teenagers of course.

              But no, I’m not gonna let you get away that easily. I want to know the why you think it’s morally okay for an adult to draw sexually explicit images of children. Please, tell me how that’s okay?

              • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
                22·
                19 hours ago

                Because morally it’s not your fucking concern what others are doing in supposed privacy of their personal spaces.

                It seems to be a very obvious thing your nose doesn’t belong there and you shouldn’t stick it there.

                But no, I’m not gonna let you get away that easily.

                I don’t need any getting away from you, you’re nothing.

                • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  19 hours ago

                  No. That’s not a good enough excuse to potentially be abusing children.

                  I can’t think of a single good reason to draw those kinds of things. Like at all. Please, give me a single good reason.

                  • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    22·
                    18 hours ago

                    No. That’s not a good enough excuse to potentially be abusing children.

                    It’s good enough for the person whose opinion counts, your doesn’t. And there’s no such potential.

                    I can’t think of a single good reason to draw those kinds of things. Like at all.

                    Too bad.

                    Please, give me a single good reason.

                    To reinforce that your opinion doesn’t count is in itself a good reason. The best of them all really.