right now I’m trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.

i need it to be remotely controllable, it’d be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?

I’ve dabbled with the “____sonic” ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.

just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!

thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.

(oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    emby and shares. emby unlike jellyfish can mount remote smb shares right in the webinterface. proxmox/lxc and jellyfin is a pain in the ass you do not want.

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      Gonic

      Wow, I thought I had a large music collection. I mean, I can put the whole 80k on random and it will be months before I hear a repeat. 200k you’d hear a song and then maybe on your 80th birthday hear it repeat. LOL The larger majority of my songs are from Indie groups I used to promo.

      I checked out Gonic.

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      I’ll have to try DSub(2000), looks pretty nice. I’ve been using Ultrasonic. I do like that Ultrasonic allows you to browse cached files as if they were their own server, which DSub doesn’t seem to do.

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      I got an SMB sync app on my phone, stores any new music I’ve found into the network folder and syncs it up on my phone.

      Sorted. Wherever I get more tracks from, they’re available on all my devices.

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    I currently host Navidrome, which has an okay web player. On Android I use “Tempo” (though it is unmaintained) to connect to it, and on Linux I use Tauon (though it has very poor playback). I could not find a native Linux client that is not buggy unfortunately, so I’m also on the lookout for better solutions! I’m not familiar with the device you are talking about but every client I tried supports MPRIS, which are the regular media controls that can be used via the playerctl command, so you should be able to hook things up that way.

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      I have just set up Navidrome from the first time and I’m using Feishin as my Linux desktop client. I installed it via nix because it isn’t in the Fedora repos as far as I could tell

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        I did use Feishin for a while, it’s an excellent music player but unfortunately not a native program. I might switch back to it from Tauon though, as actually playing the whole song before going to the next is a pretty nice upgrade hehe

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      Have you had problems on android with tempo not continuing playback?

      I also run navidrome, and have tried tempo, substreamer, and another client I can’t think of, and any of the clients that stream keep stopping playback after one song when the screen is locked.

      I’ve given the client all the permissions for running in the background and using battery that I can and no matter what I do, it’ll just stop after one song.

      I’m on a pixel 7a with gOS.

      For now I’ve settled on Poweramp with tla selection of the music on my phone since I can’t fit it all in storage. Its been really frustrating.

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        Hmm no, I haven’t had this issue. Tempo works fine for me, it’s been mostly bug-free except for a few oversights:

        • search doesn’t work offline
        • can’t play AAC files
        • can’t skip songs via my Pebble watch

        I’m (still) on a Pixel 3a, running LineageOS, in case that matters.

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        Ultrasonic works fine for me, on my pixel9 with Navidrome. Plays in the background just fine as well.

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      Can’t recommend symfonium enough it’s really great even better then plexamp

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    local storage server as a backup and to download my music to my devices (ik jellyfin is better then this but i already had the storage set up)

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      Howdy Fellow Emby user!

      i did like using emby for music and podcasts, but i was always perturbed by having to dig through the emby app to get to music. i tried using a different profile for music only but then got annoyed at having to swap back and forth.

      so at the crib, are you airplaying from your phone? what’s your audio pipeline look like?

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        I’m just using the app. I think it’s the nicest, most functional, and best looking music app outside of PlexAmp… however I absolutely agree with you that I really really wish it was just its own app… you can make this easier on yourself by editing the quick bar at the bottom of the app. When I open the Emby app it’s one tap to get to the music and then at least I don’t have to “dig through” it to get there.

        I have an AppleTV4k Hooked up to my tv and 5.1 sound system so I can Airplay to that with my iPhone. Same goes for my HomePod in the kitchen when I’m cooking. If you’re not on iOS you can also cast to any device with an Emby app but there is less flexibility there.

        I am in the same boat as you in that I’d love a dedicated app, I’m just waiting for one to come along that doesn’t suck. The FinAmp project had gotten me excited since it was ostensibly Jellyfin’s take on PlexAmp but it looks god awful and the functionality isn’t there. They have a beta version that’s a complete redesign but it also sucks terribly in my opinion.

        Since you mentioned podcasts, AudioBookShelf as a back end with the “ShelfPlayer” app on iOS has been phenomenal. The ShelfPlayer app even works with my Oauth connection which is so awesome. Wish Emby or Jellyfin did that lol.

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    My problem is that I cannot find a selfhosting solution that has the nuts to spool up 80k+ hi-res, original sourced, flac files that reside on two 10TB drives through my ancient technology. MusicBee is the closest thing I’ve come across, but that is local, and it struggles. I stay around the compound now days so local is ok, but it would be nice to stream out on the back porch without cranking my stereo to 11 so I can hear. I have bluetooth options but range is an issue.

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      if you can, don’t be afraid to pull some wires! i come from a low-voltage background, and am getting ready to run some cabling for distributed audio.

      found some old control4 gear that can be controlled directly from Home Assistant, no control4 processor required!

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        Hello fellow hass/mass user. Also, what sort of low voltage?

        Fire/security alarms? Or access control? (Or both)?

        I do both, as well as CCTV.

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          oh lawd i am glad to meet another out in the wild!

          i was fortunate to start with residential alarm and A/V. due to a talent vacuum, leapfrogged to control system programmer/service, which allowed a few forks in the road (service manager, project manager and sales,) before bringing me back to my primary passion in this industry, AV programming and design.

          but yeah I’ve installed my fair share of alarm panels, access control, thousands of camera systems.

          but most of my shit has been fixing old rich people’s wifi and kids/grandkids AV

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    I share a Spotify family plan with friends, but I use Zotify to make backups, which I then host in Jellyfin.

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    Music folder on a network share. Navidrome and plex and jellyfin all have access to that library, then pick your poison for the client app. Plex is also DLNA enabled so my dumber AVR can access it too. I mostly use tempo app on android though. I’m a pinch, I can use navidromes web UI player to listen. The plex and jellyfin are mainly just a backup and overkill cause I can’t make up my mind.

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    Why do I see no mentions of Ampache here? From what I found, it was the only program except Navidrome to support nested smart playlist, and Ampache has the editor directly in the web interface.

    Anyways, I host mine too! Over 2TB of music files on my server, and it runs pretty well.

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      Damn, and I thought my 30k plus tracks was pretty large. I use Navidrome as a server and slskd as well

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        I’m close to a TB myself. For me, I’m a bit of a “completionist” and can’t stand having just 2 or 3 tracks from an entire album. Every track I have is accompanied by the rest of the album it was released on.

        Sure, it means there are some duplicates at times, but it’s worth it to me.

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          Same. There are some tracks and albums I don’t like, but I won’t delete them. Another reason to use smart playlist, I can just put them into “Not My Style” playlist and it’s magically gone from my main list.

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        Well, I don’t actually play all of them in a straight line; it’s more of an archive. Still, my main playlist is few thousand songs long, which is created with smart playlists.

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        They’re available in Soulseek! Both Soulseek and Ampache share the same directory. I was thinking of creating a torrent, but I am still in the process of deduplicating them, so I decided against it.

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          slsk and nicotine+ have been so cool for so long!

          i feel bad when im likely destroying someone’s uploads because i found a hidden treasure of FLACs from some older or obscure artists