More than half of Americans reported receiving at least one scam call per day in 2024. To combat the rise of sophisticated conversational scams that deceive victims over the course of a phone call, we introduced Scam Detection late last year to U.S.-based English-speaking Phone by Google public beta users on Pixel phones.

We use AI models processed on-device to analyze conversations in real-time and warn users of potential scams. If a caller, for example, tries to get you to provide payment via gift cards to complete a delivery, Scam Detection will alert you through audio and haptic notifications and display a warning on your phone that the call may be a scam.

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    No, no, Fuck You, no!!

    I will have no phone that employs “Counterfeit Conciousness” to listen to every fucking word of every fucking conversation leading to (among others):

    • Further training
    • Data retention of complete call content somewhere (waiting to be hacked)
    • Possible reports to LEO (or worse)
    • …whatever else I can’t think of just now…

    Fuck right off with this.

    This solidifies for me I will never own a Pixel phone.

    And, if this becomes ubiquitous in Android, I’ll have to rethink that, too.

    Doesn’t mean I’ll necessarily go to iOS; more likely completely rethink having a phone at all.

    Fuck Google entirely. Don’t be Evil my ass.

    🙄 🤡 🖕 🖕

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      Pixel is the only device that is supported by GrapheneOS (sadly), so you can own Pixel just for installing grapheneOS on it.

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      Additionally, just fucking stop scammers from using fucking gift cards.

      Surely it’s not that hard to detect that a gift card sold in Australia is being activated in Russia.

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      We got baited by piece of shit journos

      It’s a local model. It doesn’t send data over.

      If they want call data they can buy it straight from service providers anyway

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        We got baited by piece of shit journos

        It’s an official announcement written by Google.

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          This ☝️, which nobody tells you, and then about 20 other things nobody tells you except that one Indian vlogger who installs everything on everything.

          TL;DW - if you have a relatively recent Pixel, you’re probably good. Everything else, get out the forum posts, an old POS windows box you don’t mind trashing and start finding out what doesn’t work. You might get some Samsung to mostly work ok.

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            And next phone same person buys is the latest same pay by installments piece of lock downed shit hardware. And continue to complain on lack of support for shitty hardware, shitty firmware and shitty software. Stop buy shit , custom roms have been around since android 1.1 and GOS and Calyx aren’t recent inventions either.
            Lineage official supports a fuckton of devices as well. Including every single pixel made. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ So quite well documented.

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        Can’t back up everything on my phone without root and cant root without wiping the phone so…

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          How have you managed to save things on your phone you cannot back up without root?

          You’re just straight fucked if this is true. Don’t save permanent things to your phone. Your phone is transient. Phones are not permanent.

          edit: so the “phone shit is permanent” crew came out early on this one? Bruh, your phone can be taken from you in an instant. It’s transient.

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          Linux can’t manage the cellphone blobs yet. I’ll be using linux on a phone when it works well.

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      So, it’s on device, which negates many of the above worries. Does that change things? I’m all good with private AI, personally. Slippery slope and all, though…

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      Since it’s processed on device they don’t (necessarily) need to transmit and store your conversations in some central location. I guess theoretically this could be done in a secure way.

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      Doesn’t mean I’ll necessarily go to iOS; more likely completely rethink having a phone at all.

      Man cuts off nose to spite face; news at 11