I keep seeing headlines like this, and of course conveniently leaving out how Torvalds chewed people out for vibe coding.

Torvalds didn’t vibe code away the Linux bug. He actually knows what he’s doing.

[insert meme of the guy sweating over which of two red buttons to press]

I personally don’t care about the tech. I care about the economy around the tech.

As long as AI doesn’t become the standard way of correcting a bug or coding Linux shit then it’s whatever. If they end up as bad as Microslop, then we’re gonna have to make hardened rules around the Distros that can and can not have AI, fixing issues.

I mean… I’m not gonna lie on the flipped coin of that sentiment, I would love to see a Linux OS built entirely by Ai.

It’s kind of like fuck Ai taking over the movie industry but I would love to see a documentary about the AI pasta eating evolution of will smith but created with AI.

Reminds me of nuke stuff back in they day. It can be energy to be harnessed, or energy to destroy, depends on the user and the sourcing of the materials. I use Ai (grammerly) to proofread important documents. (tone and proper grammar) didn’t let it re write more than a word or a symbol. Seems the equivalent here.

I think alot of people get upset at the owners of Ai and rightfully so. Was this a local model? Did he build it? Lots of factors.

What AI haters don’t get is that the people fanning the flames of AI(LLM’s) hate are the same people who want you to buy their subscriptions, because they know the only place the real damage occurs is in OpenSource communities.

AI use for Open Source projects is arguably the one use case that benefits everyone, plus it’s a sweet irony against corps and their locked-down proprietary software. Denouncer will loudly hawk that LLMs will make it trivial to circumvent the GPL, but they fail to mention that the pendulum swings both ways; with LLMs, it’s now easier than ever to reverse engineer proprietary systems and programs, recently there was a similar discourse on lemmy due to the mario kart wii decompilation.

They want loud people to sow division into OpenSource communities so that true opensource LLMs solutions are shunned and never reach maturity, corporate meanwhile is unaffected.

unpopular opinion, especially on the fediverse, but: AI is not inherently bad.

it is a tool, that can do everything to a pretty low standard but rather fast. so it is up to the learnt human to use the thing at the right time. i use the company ai at regularly at work, but treat it as an apprentice: every line of code has to be checked, because it will fail hilariously. but it does type faster than me, so simple and boring jobs can be done by it.

i don’t see the appeal of avoiding generated code at all cost. it is not different from human code in that it can fail horribly. the important thing is oversight. is there someone with the knowledge and keen eye to ensure no BS is merged. Linus, in my opinion, spent a lifetime building that reputation.

The AI cabal is a very small group with a very large amount of power and powerful friends who want to push this on you. Remember, walking away from this does not impact hunger or shelter at all. You can survive without this shimmering facade.

Finally got where I stand: why uncomfortable? It’s just being hard to impose a sensible approach to it:

• yes, llms can be used as a tool efficiently
• no, killing the planet along the way is not an option, this has to stop be stopped

AI is like a power tool. If you give a contractor a nail gun instead of a hammer he can build a house faster. If you give someone who has no idea how to build a house a nail gun they’ll just fail at building a house faster than if you only gave them a hammer and they’ll probably hurt themselves.

I would trust Linus Torvalds to use AI to do this because the AI is literally trying to copy him when it writes that code. In that context, he is the training data.

They should ask for a refund

Using AI is not the same as vibe coding.

Asking AI to write a piece of code and then read it, understand and use, is a very reasonable use case.

Daddy or chips.

I’ve decided to start moving to NetBSD. The copyright status of genAI code is very questionable, and it’s likely any project that integrates it, with be “extinguished” via legal action in the future.