The art shown in the post is not ai, the guy who made it even did videos about the workflow to model this stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB8rBDLw3iE
(The text to speach is shitty but the workflow is nice)
How about: AI Generated 3D models flood the free / open source repositories, anything wrong with that?
It is not art. It has no value. The sole thing it has is convenience for the one that generates it.
No skill, no talent, no humanity. Nothing of value.
Those last two lines make for great lyrics. Might steal 'em. 😉
But you have to post it when you record it… Please.
Steal away man. Any bit of human inspiraten is a good thing!
As a Wolverine fan, the amount of “art” out there where he has 4 claws on each hand is infuriating.
Classic fence post problem
Why would you pay for them when you can just generate them yourself for cheaper?
Do you mean to tell me that Prompt Engineer isn’t a real job??
There are people getting paid for it. So I guess it actually is at least for now.
It was, but they lost their jobs to AI automation.
Seriously, I have been screwing around with AI for coding for 12 months now. The prompts I had to give 12 months ago to make the LLM generate decent code are mostly un-necessary now, the models have learned to do those things for themselves, so I am now prompting for the less-obvious stuff. Whatever they’re missing, that’s what you need to be prompting.
Do you mean to tell me that vibe-writing prompts is an equivalent to an engineering degree??
I’ll just vibe write one broseph, it’s the wave of the f̵u̶t̶u̸r̶e̷, g̴̘̖͆ę̶̮͊t̴̢̼͗̎ o̷̼̭̰̍ṉ̸̣̗͛̔ b̴͓͚͗̈́o̵̙͉̎ä̴̲̯́̇r̸͕̽̈d̶̦̫̍̃ o̶̠͗̑̚r̸̙͖̈́ g̷̡̻̠̲͔̖̜̠̣͓̉̈́̎͆͛̀͒̽͑ȩ̴͔̞͕͑̀̓͗̋͑̈̾̌̓̕t̸̞̥̲̟̲̬̀̐ l̷̞̮̓͐̐̐̔́́̽̏̅͋̄͛̚e̶͉̲̼̘̹̒̐̉͐̓̽̔̅̒̿̽̀̾̊̀f̵̢̧̨̨̛̬̤̗̻̟̱̯̳̞̳̝͎͔̱͕̲͓̰͉͕̭͐͊̆̒̿̊͗͑̈́́̈́̀̀̂̂̄͘ͅt̴̢̧̥͍̼͙̙̝̫̹̙͚̭̱̯̜̳͕̜̼͍̆̔̎̄̂̏̌̈́͗̊͊̋͐͆̃̕͝ b̴̧̧̢̡̢̢͕͖̞̫̤̹͉̲̬̟̗̝̞͓͕̺͈̫̱̰͇͎͙͎̖̜͙̦͎̖̥͇̘̹̦͇̦͕̹͎͓̻͇̳̖̰̬̞͕̯̖͖̼̰̹́̈́̾́͗͐̅͌̀̎͛͒̐̔̎̆͗̽̒̒͒̈̀͊͗́̌͂͛͑̄͐̄̐͛̀̏̀̽̇͛̍̽̽̚͝͠͝e̶̢̡̛̛̞̯̦͈͓͙̳̗̜̤͍̜͖͍̩͊̌͑̏̇̀̈́́̏̿͂̈́̈́̽̈́̀̇͂̉̾̓̑͛͒̈̇͆̽̌̃̅̉̀̾̇̐͊̈́̊̀̇̆̚̚͜͝͠h̸̡̢̢̨̨̛̹̠̳͈͙̙̗̮̫̣̦̠̲͇̰̺̘͖͇̰̯͖̺͍̬̙̠͕̱̗̙̹̘̼̜̙͚̦̥̪͍̲̻̼̦̖͍͔̬̮̰͈̳̦͖̬̻̓̐̾̅͋̂͛͐̓̍́̔̌̃̍̌͆͒̍̃͐̇͑̃́́́͌̆͗̊̀̐̃̂̈́̎͌̾̇́́̊͑̒̔̃̓̀̋͌̚̕͜͜͠͠͠͠͠͠͠͠ͅͅị̷̧̡̙̺̟̰̬͕͔̥̥͈̲͚̠̙̗͍̯̠͖̲̞͔͎̬̮͍̝͕̐́͛̈́͗͐̀̑͗͐̿̍̈͗̏̀̇̆͛̄̍̃̎̃͆̀͑͗̈́͆͛̏̆͑̓̃̀̂̄̚͘̕̕̚͘͜͝ͅn̵̨̧̢̢̢̛̛̛̛̛̻͔̩̯̭͚̯̲͙̤͔̟̫̗̪̥̯̲̲̝̰̮͓͓̦̱͓̤̮̖̥͇͖͕̄̂̑̌̿̃̎̎̌̌̑͌̾͒̑̽̀͗͛͆̀̍̾̽̐̍̍̆̂̃͌̽̄́̾͗̃͛̆͘͘̚͜͝͝͝͝ͅͅd̴̨̧̨̡̢̨̨̳̱̣͎͍̯̯̺̼̜͖̠̩̞̫̭͉͈͕̞̺͔̦̰̼̖͖̰̼͍̟͎̫͉̣̙̮͉̭̹̰̞̈́͆̂̅͒̽̌͛͌̈̏̍̿͐͋̎̓̒̒̆̄̕̕͝͠͠͠ͅ
Just wanted to say I noticed and appreciate the effort to have what looks like two stages of zalgo there (unless there’s a generator out there that will auto-increase it over the string, in which case… link? hehe)
I searched for one, either it’s not out there (yet) or my searching sucks.
Also it’s increased in each word after the start, just not dramatically at first.
I’m going to guess if you expressed what you want to a decent LLM, it could generate it for you to copy-paste.
Hard pass. This was just a few more copy pastes, the day I can’t do that I don’t belong on the internet at all.
Y’know, I hadn’t noticed “future” at first, and for my on desktop, it does reach a limit (re: the screenshot another user made). Hah, so even more kudos for the effort <3
Little makes me happier than a silly internet meme like that :)
It’s pretty dramatic…
That’s the line wrapping of your client, it doesn’t start until the word ‘future’.
I mean it is a real job, and it takes a unique skill set if your actually building the workflow, tuning the model and learning the tooling.
But it’s not the same job as artist.
Its like comparing a stone sculpture to a welder. Both can make art but it’s two VERY different processes and results.
The problem is the stupid ass prompt engineers are claiming to be artists and have no actual art skills. And 99% of them don’t even understand how the fuck their own tooling works, understand how to actual tune the model or even what it’s training set really is.
They just slap words into the slop generator and call it a day
It’s the equivalent of yeeting a paint can at a wall and calling it art.
It’s fucking stupid
It’s like comparing a stone sculptor to a welder where the welding tools started as magnifying glasses in the direct sun a year ago worked up through acetylene torches and now you’ve got 400A precision TIG arc welders to screw up with…
3D modelling has nothing to do with prompts and tuning models. The output is objectively garbage to anyone with even passing knowledge of the subject.
Just like with anything machine generated, it’s always really capable and will completely dominate the market, but only to the layperson who has no fucking clue what they’re talking about.
That’s really about the time and effort you put into the construction of the model and what you’re trying to model in the first place.
For the most part, the LLMs are really bad at building say - a cat with realistic long fur. However, they can be good coloborative tools teaching you how to use Blender to build a decent cat with realistic long fur for yourself - speeding up that learning curve quite a bit over reading “Blender for Dummies” examples and building from there…
Stop talking. Prompting isn’t working. I know, because I do it all day.
Everyone should just stop talking about it at this point and only look at the quality of their output. If you’re AI-assisted and your shit still sucks then that’s just you sucking shit.
Everybody should have been looking at the quality of their output before LLM tools were even a thing. They never should have stopped, if they did, that’s on them just like Tesla drivers napping at 80mph.
This is the central problem with AI art
Also there are subscription models to access a library of high quality models for much cheaper than AI could generate each individual one. Also there are many very talented 3D artists out there who can create unique models of a much higher quality than AI can at the moment.
Once again LLMs aren‘t really solving any problems here. They‘re only trying to disrupt with no benefit for society or the profession.
Basically digital dropshipping.
Because they probably claim they’re hand made models so you pay for skill when you’re getting mass market.
In other words: as scam. That’s simply what most stuff that use ai are, one way or another
Right? Hunyuan 3D is open weight, free to use, and probably not too far off from the cloud-based services that charge per credit.
Last time I was on Thingiverse browsing, someone had spent the past day uploading hundreds of models of women squatting. Just page after page. I gave up and went somewhere else. Who the fuck thinks we want to see this
As someone who has been deep into 3d printing for a long time, even selling prints that I bought licenses for, there are a LOT of people who want exactly that.
I don’t not want to see women squatting, but will pass on Ai generated models of that though thanks.
Yeah, squatting is great! Fuck landlords!
Clankers
AI really shows how broken and non-existant moderation is on these “platforms”.
printables has a “no ai” and a “no politics” checkbox. I almost never see AI or political prints with that turned on
It has nothing to do with AI. Pornographic models for 3d printing have been everywhere in large numbers long before the current AI became a thing.
That and batmans. There is an overlap
Don’t forget the flexi-snakes. So many flexi-snakes. Fidget toys still seem pretty popular after all these years too.
It’s crazy that the 3d printed flexi snakes and dragons are selling in retail stores with full on retail packaging these days. I sold a few through Instagram a while ago, can’t image how you’d get them to retail
And The Rock.
The Rock is still a thing too
My wife has been selling handmade crocheted stuff on Etsy for a while and I am constantly catching her going through listings and getting infuriated about designs that look awesome in the photos but are unrealistic or impossible in execution, and yet people keep buying them
This is where a challenger could easily dethrone etsy, taking away their first mover advantage by creating a maker’s marketplace with a strict no-AI policy and heavy human moderation.
I used to make fine silver chains by hand and sell them on Etsy, and did quite well with it. Then it got flooded with drop shippers despite that being against terms of service. But you could see the biggest and most successful jewellery sellers all had identical products and if you search their product titles on Ali express or Temu it was the first result. I went from 5-10 sales which was a couple grand a month to zero the instant they stopped policing it.
I can only imagine how bad it is now with ai. I tried to browse Etsy for something recently and there was literally pages of ai slop. I don’t think I saw a single real product.
I bought a 50 € “silver ring” that was made out of copper on Etsy. After it started changing it’s color and painting my finger black i searched for it on Ali and found it for 1,10 € there.
I couldn’t revive the 5 Star rating i gave the shop, nor did they or Etsy get back to me after inquiering. After that i stopped using Etsy completly.
Yep. Etsy stopped caring completely when they realised how much revenue drop shippers were bringing in. There was no way I could compete with silver plated copper from China with personalised engraving for $15 when the chains took 8+ hours to make and were made with pure silver. This was back when silver was $30/ounce. Now it’s $91. And the chains were 2-3 ounces by the time I was done.
How long was it? Most banks let you do a credit card charge back for at least a year after purchase.
Not in the us, not paied by credit card. Besides, it’s more than three years past that point. But thanks anyway for pointinit out
Etsy is flooded with slop, it’s awful. If you search something like “crochet bracelet patterns” you will get pages and pages of straight slop: https://www.etsy.com/uk/search?q=crochet+bracelet+patterns
It’s the exact same problem you run into on any open or semi-open market but the outcome for anything with a good user review system will be the same. Look at Steam where asset flips and low quality clones flooded the store but 99% of them barely get a handful of sales if any. Instead all the money goes towards the games with actual fun content. People recognize low quality and low effort slop and AI reeks of it.
The only thing flooding markets with slop does is it makes it harder for the small gems to get discovered. Some of them still will, they happen to catch the eye of just the right person and spread through word of mouth, and the big companies will just shovel heaps of money into advertising, but it makes life miserable for the little guy trying to make a name for themselves.
There are a bunch of areas where AI has really struggled and design like this is a good example. My closest experience is AI trying to create Lucid charts. Everytime I see it done I think, “what drugs are you taking” and realize it’s an AI creation. At the super high level it looks like it could be accurate and then you start following the flow diagrams and it’s insane.
Yeah, ai CAN do somethings really well at this point. But scam artists don’t care and just bank on people not paying attention. So they use it everywhere including places it still has no business being.
But scam artists have been a problem for all of human history. Ai ain’t changed that one bit. It’s just the new avenue.
