As a non-USian viewing all this from the outside, I’d say blaming the people at the bottom for what the largest gaslighting machine in the history of human civilization has managed to achieve is absolutely masochistic.

Your anti-democratic political establishment is to blame for this.

Lol! You can’t “exterminate” a state, genius. It’s a state. You remember what those are?

And if Hamas were to disappear tomorrow who will oppose the Israelis?

You?

They don’t bat an eyelid when you accuse Israel of being an Apartheid-state - it’s like water flowing off a duck’s back. Call Israel a kapo state, however, and they lose their shit. That they can’t ignore.

There is no “left” in formal, establishment politics - none. Formal establishment politics is fundamentally right-wing - therefore, blaming the actions of political establishments on any left is inane.

I recently came back to Lemmy from reddit to escape the batshit pro-Israel censorship happening on there right now and I have to say that the quality of the content and discussion has just gone up.

When it comes to war, the two parties are always in agreement.

And that’s the left’s fault how?

You lost me at “Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine.” You can just call it what it is… an invasion.

And if you think “the left” in the US is so powerful that it could have made any kind of dent in the narratives surrounding Russia’s invasion of Ukraine I have to call bullshit.

In other words, these laws are not “fighting pedophilia”. They are enabling child abuse.

So no different than all these laws that (supposedly) “stop sex trafficking” which only exist to clamp down on sex work while… drumroll… making absolutely no dent in actual sex trafficking?

Yeah… that tracks.

They’re relatively cheap and provide a lot of nutritional value for the weight - I buy them in big bags straight from the farmer’s market. Tree nuts (peanuts aren’t actually nuts at all - they’re legumes) are literally a luxury only the rich can afford in my country these days - kind of ironic since we’re the world’s top producer of macademia nuts.

Roasting them is actually important since that degrades aflatoxins - they also just taste better.

Way to avoid the question

I’m not avoiding the question - you are avoiding the entire reality of the situation. The colonized does not require your approval or oversight to wage war against colonizers.

devising a workable solution to the inherent complexities that exist between the two countries.

What complexities? Why are people all of a sudden pretending that western colonialism - and the resistance against it - is suddenly a “new” thing?

(the impetus for which I can only guess)

Again… there is no mystery here - Israel has always been a western-backed colonialist project. No ifs, ands or buts. Where is the mystery?

but escalation via killing uninvolved civilians

If we cared about “civilians,” wouldn’t we be concerned about colonialism in the first place? No? Then I guess we’re only concerned when said “civilians” belonging to the colonizer side start dying, eh?

Is it justified to commit warcrimes against civilians, because you’ve had warcrimes committed against you?

You want to go and lecture people suffering colonial genocide how to resist said colonial genocide in a way that doesn’t discomfort you?

Be my guest… hell, if you take a shipment of 7.62x39 with you, they might even have a reason to listen to you.

I would gladly stand in opposition to that, too.

A bit late for that, don’t you think? Just like it’s a bit late to “stand in opposition” when this particular colonial genocide began all the way back in 1949.

Wanna know one thing that it’s never too late for? Questioning why you have been drenched in narratives surrounding Hamas’s “crimes” (real, perceived and/or invented) while you have zero context regarding the long, long list of atrocities committed by Israel since 1949 nor the even larger atrocities committed by Israel’s western backers - you know… the same backers that are drenching you in these narratives?

It’s never too late to figure out who it is that is manipulating you - and why.

Why am I actually responding to a comment that is saying muslims don’t want to exterminate Jews.

Let me guess… you’re a product of the US education system?

You don’t have the foggiest idea of the history you are feigning expertise in here, do you?

Sure the liberal ones don’t, but wtf?

What “liberals,” Clyde? The only Palestinian “liberals” you will find are the corrupt lapdog racketeers “managing” the West Bank at the behest of Israel. If Hamas takes them out, very few Palestinians will lose any sleep over it… and rightly so.

Sooo… they endorsed one genocide right before pretending to be concerned over another?

You can’t make this shit up.

Oh, look… the people acting like Nazis are calling the people resisting them of being Nazis.

The irony is that Gaza’s situation is very similar to that of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943…

Like the statement says - Israel bears full responsibility for this… and has done so since 1949.

Also… fuck Israel.

Have they tried to make good diplomatic relations with them?

You mean the Egypt being ruled by a US-backed and funded dictatorship? That the Egypt we’re talking about?

Israel hasn’t occupied Gaza for around 18 years

The Apartheid-regime didn’t “occupy” the Bantustans, either.

“Israel bears full responsibility.”

Sorry, but… where’s the lie? Israel has borne full responsibility for this since 1948 - there is absolutely nothing Hamas can do that changes that.

but that freedom should not come at the cost of committing war crimes themselves.

What do you think this is? Star Wars? What did you think anti-colonialist warfare is really like in real life? It’s messy - did you really think that the French Resistance during WW2 only killed Nazis? The Allies themselves slaughtered hundreds of thousands of civilians, yet I don’t see too many people “both-siding” that conflict.

And btw… Palestinians were minding their own business until Israel (and it’s western enablers) clocked in.