At least you’re not using chatgpt to figure out the best way to talk to people, like my brother in finance tech does now.

“But if I lick boot hard enough maybe one day I’ll get to be an owner and control them!”

That’s why we need to stop relying on idols and figureheads. I dont even necessarily think we need to organize, but to act as individuals capable of operating independently from central leadership. Most of us have the same goal, after all. It’s just most of us are still too comfortable or afraid to do anything, and that’s because we invested too much in leaders or orgs that we watch get assassinated and destroyed. But they can’t get all of us, especially if we act independently, and soon.

Isn’t this sorta how the Corporate Wars started in the Cyberpunk universe?

You said “enlighten” which reminds me of something. This is a copy/paste of a comment i’ve posted before:

“How did we overthrow Kings again? Something about us becoming ahem “Enlightened” during some sort of era or period? What can we learn from the successes and failures? Where did Europeans get ideas of freedom, autonomy, equality, and question of authority from when all they knew about was Kings and Divine Right? Did they perhaps go to some kind of ahem New World with a matchcoat and musket to live and trade amongst the natives for 200 years?! Perhaps there was some sort of ahem Indiginous Critique on European Culture that sorta blew the minds of the French, English, and Dutch alike? Perhaps they wrote some plays about this! That they could disobey or :gasps: impeach their leaders? That pursuasion and reason might be more important? Perhaps over some coffee and pipe tobacco? Oh right, next thing you’d think i’d say is they didn’t trade or so much as look at silver? How they MUST have had a “Market” how else could goods or heirlooms possibly trade hands? Certainly not gifts, quests, or gambling! Jeez, I wonder if we still have something to learn from these ideas that were just too darn complicated for Ben Franklin and Jean Jacque Rousseau!”

If you would like to learn more teachings from a culture that inspired the LITERAL FUCKING ENLIGHTENMENT PERIOD, allow me to “enlighten” you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondiaronk#Oratory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dawn_of_Everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzWj9ZORv8E - Immortal Technique (2001)

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/russell-means-for-america-to-live-europe-must-die - Speech dictated by the american indian Russel Means.

https://environicsindia.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/socialism.pdf - Albert Einstein (bonus reading)

“B-but the Free Markets” their head twists erratically and sparks fly, a spring pops out of their neck. “Capitalism… Vote with your wallet… Extremism in any form is wrong…” they say, buzzing with malfunctioning word salad and CNN talking points like a radio skipping through stations.

They’re cowards who have never been in a scuff or even so much as a play-fight in their whole lives. They prefer the protection of isolating themselves in a brick chimney as opposed to protection through rationale, reason, and community.

Nah they hold the “balanced and nuanced perspective” of shutting their eyes, plugging their ears, going “Lalala Free Market Lalala Free Market…” at the top of their lungs where their children can see them.

White tech-bro liberals have as much soul as a laptop. I’ve noticed that almost every tech bro Free Market Liberal-tarian i’ve met has aphantasia, they can’t even produce images in their heads to think.

Also seen plenty centrist democrats blame protest voters as if that had more of an effect than the democrats bending over for republicans.

They’re already here, so much Nazi apologia has appeared all of a sudden.

Nazis had to start somewhere too, they didn’t come out the gate with mass murder, it was called “The Final Solution” because their other “Solutions” failed (deportation, segregation, ghettos, work camps, etc.) The Nazis were once just a fringe group that nobody took seriously, and here you are trying to say that two open Nazi salutes isn’t that big a deal. Your red arm band is showing.

Wow thank you for the incredibly balanced argument. I really want to switch to Linux for all the obvious reasons, but it’s the same cliche reason why I don’t - I’m too much of a bitch-dude to make such a big change to something I use and operate on the daily without certainty. But as i’ve said, the moment say Valve come out with a SteamOS for desktop which is basically Windows through and through minus the bloatware and corruption (that isn’t to say Valve isn’t corrupt but they’re not making weapons for Israel) is the day I switch with no qualms. Like many I’m far too used to the interface and compatability of Windows still.

Nothing wrong with defending your team, that’s something us leftists are guilty of that we try to dunk on eachother more than organize and cooperate like our theory keeps telling us. Even if it takes a bit of scumbaggery, we’re stuck between the fear of maybe getting it wrong and not doing anything. I think the latter is worse.

I just wanna stop feeling bad when Muta yells at me.

I left reddit because I was banned for saying “People can vote.” I find more nuanced discussions and less censorship here, it’s just that in a free non-corporate space conservatism is just an unpopular ideology when one of their leaders does a Nazi salute at the conservative winning presidential inauguration. But go ahead, put on your boots and uniform and maybe your Father will give you a medal for owning the libs.

What’s your point?

It’s like that feeling on the diving board before you jump in the pool without knowing how warm or cold the water is. I’m still afraid of getting wet, if you know what I mean.

Your comparing people who want trans rights and universal healthcare to people who want to shoot pregnant women in the back of the head and load their children into ovens and gas chambers.