looking at their 2023 financial report, unless i’m misinterpreting something, they spent around 200 million paying “program staff” (i suppose that’s the developers) and 130 million paying executives, which is more than i was expecting. still, if their revenue gets slashed in 90%, just firing every single executive wouldn’t be enough. they’d still have to fire firefox staff

i might be mistaken, but mozilla’s executives get paid about 15% of the total revenue. it’s a lot, but it’s not the problem here

the sad truth, i believe. i hope i’m wrong, but the effective death of firefox feels like a matter of time

comments claiming mozilla doesn’t need the money make me feel i’m crazy. you actually think making a modern web engine that competes with chrome in terms of performance and compatibility is easy? that relying solely on donations from individuals and voluntary work are gonna cut it? if it was that easy, we’d have more than just gecko, webkit and webkit fork – but we don’t.

it also truly drives me insane when people bring up the forks, as if they’re anything more than re-skins.

without financial backing, mozilla is dead, firefox is dead, and the web will be 100% google’s. no project as large and complex as firefox stays afloat without corporate-level money.

Kind of like how LibreOffice happened after the holders of OpenOffice pulled their shit

libreoffice has the document foundation behind it, which is basically a continuation of the oo.o team after oracle bought sun: https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/libreoffice-timeline/

mozilla is already an independent foundation. i don’t think the situations are comparable at all

figma balls

what do you mean? does pale moon develop its own browser engine?

ff forks depend on mozilla’s work. if mozilla dies, they die

also, again, making the browser is only part of mozilla’s job

this is a bafflingly absurd comparison. ladybird is nowhere near the same scale as mozilla. not only is firefox a fully functional browser, available in multiple platforms, but also creating the browser is only one of the relevant things mozilla does

But something is bound to take Mozillas place

how can you be so sure?

just updated to it in opensuse and it’s pretty solid, but wifi doesn’t work for some reason. it can see the networks but it never connects

amazing. it looks like a nuclear meltdown

what additional warnings were issued in tor browser?

to be fair, I understand the frustration and i myself hate linux sometimes too. i just wish they’d communicate they’re asking for help

main ssd with debian stable: a single partition for the system + swap

secondary harddrive: an opensuse, a debian testing, and a freebsd partition + shared data partition

debian bc i want a rock solid system that i don’t have to worry about maintaining and i don’t give a fuck about the most recent versions of stuff

to the unavoidable “it’s been 15 years” comments: 15-year-old x11 was a piece of shit. the difference is that we had no alternative so we had to put up with it

i’d usually agree, but in this case, it feels like a cost-cutting measure. webdevs are cheaper and more available, so it’s cheaper for them to just rewrite the installer in electron than pay more expensive desktop developers to maintain their existing installer

seems like yet another electron app that only runs locally. i’m guessing that hiring traditional desktop ui developers is getting harder and more expensive over time, so they don’t bother anymore and just hire webdevs instead

thanks for the tip about src/* skipping hidden files. i fixed that, excluded unnecessary massive files i found through baobab and copied the remaning files. everything worked and i’m now runnning debian testing