if you put the people making translation possible out of work, you will run out of sources for useful translations.

LLM are not magic. They function off of human effort for thir training data. High quality data is thus, sourced from (in this case) human translators. Some can be done without them by nonprofessional texts, but it is not enough.

they cant actually but it’s convincing enough that you’ll think it’s the same, and in the process make it financially impossible for improvements to be made by actual translators.

Yes we agree on the first part.

I will again direct you here re: the second.

Where is the world model you maintain? Can you point to it? You can’t - because the human mind is very much a black box just the same way as LLM’s are.

It’s not really factually correct if you want to get pedantic, both brains and llms are called black boxes for different reasons, but this is ultimately irrelevant. Your motive may be here or there, the rhetorical effect is the same. You are arguing very specifically that we cant know llm’s dont hae similar features (world model) to human brains because “both are black boxes”, which is wrong for a few reasons, but also plainly an equivalence. It’s rude to pretend everyone in the conversation is as illiterate as wed need to be to not understand this point.

Where is the world model you maintain? Can you point to it? You can’t - because the human mind is very much a black box just the same way as LLM’s are.

something being a black box is not even slightly notable a feature of relation, it’s a statement about model detail; the only reason you’d make this comparison is if you want the human brain to seem equivalent to llm.

for example, you didnt make the claim: “The inner workings of Europa are very much a black box, just the same way as LLM’s are”

Not understanding the brain (note: said world model idea is something of a fabrication by the ai people, brains are distributed functional structures with many parts and roles) is not an equality with “ai” make. brains and llm do not function in the same way, this is a lie peddled by hype dealers.

depends entirely on the kind of drive.

This is generally in line with ice, the drivetrain efficiencies anymore are in the high 90%s (applies to ev too), so from engine out you are losing basically everything to drag.

critical thinking does not simply mean “think hard”, it means research this person and account for maybe two, even three, seconds, before assuming everything they say is truth.

perhaps instead use critical thinking to determine genuinity. the alternative is not xitter’s version, and twitters old version was criticized too.

an attempt was made

Here’s a recent reuters report. https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/ghibli-effect-chatgpt-usage-hits-record-after-rollout-viral-feature-2025-04-01/

160 million active users is quite literally worse than many mobile games developed for a tens of, maybe hundreds of thousands of, usd. 160 million active users for 40 billion funding (they have needed more than this, but i cant be assed to go tally their funding) means theyve spent $250 per user, and their costs only grow as people use it. That is not including the massive server time subsidies Azure has provided them. This is not a profitable company and never will be.

“Block Blast” on the google play store has 40 million daily active users, 160 million monthly, and the studio has around 30 people. Its revenue from ads alone is in the tens of millions per month if this case study is accurate. Oai claims their monthly revenue in the hundreds of millions… with operating costs at greater hundreds of millions. oai profit is negative, with no signs of improving without entirely changing their business plan.

except that “get em hooked for free” part isnt working, nor is the “then make money” part.

sure, im not saying blindly trust people in all situations. but distrust should be exceptional, not normal.

and your heart could fail at any moment randomly. doesnt make it rational to design your whole life around it. Yes people can betray your trust, but again and again and again it’s been shown that people dont betray eachother far far more often than they do. Also, if you’re big on Logic™️, lying only works if the vast majority of communication is truthful.

the sort of logic that’s fundamentally irrational.

nobody else escapes responsibility because there’s a system level explanation for their behavior, why should the richest and most powerful?

and now neural networks are suddenly the preposterous advance? Nonsense.

voice generators and generative ai are built with the intent of replacing artists, your incredibly reductive “history lesson” funnily illustrates only situations distinct from the current situation and you gloss over making any specific claims about the technology, just broad vagary about the trajectories of technological advancement. I dont think you are equipped to discuss this topic honestly.

luddites are corporate propaganda

??? actually just a plainly absurd statement. this isnt even worth responding to it’s so absurdly incorrect.

Yes yes ubi, but “technological labor amplification” in this case is driving human artists out of the market. make specific claims, quit hiding behind vague generalizations about automation. it’s a waste of everyone’s time and terminates your train of thought before you get to something relevant.

We can discuss further if you make an effort to understand this topic, but so far you are just speaking largely in cliches that arent worth responding to and arent worth your time writing.

Do you genuinely actually believe automation like llm or voice gen are being developed to free you from work? Nonsense. It’s meant to drive the relative value of your labor into the ground so that everyone can be paid less. you see it literally here, a career set you are simply saying shouldnt exist because a corporation can do it without a human getting economic benefit. You should read about the history of the luddites.

The only blind ones here are those who uncritically accept corporate propaganda about technology and walk stupified towards the facade of a sci fi utopia. if you are going to claim that rejection of losing human artists as the barely viable profession it is is blind, at least put the effort in. Dont walk in and go “just like carriages lol” and try considering the issue for longer.

“it’s innovation” and so is letal injection. this is hyperbole to quickly demonstrate to you that technology is not absent ethical considerations.