🎺🎺
Not in any way the average user cares much about.
The causal social media user cares for two things:
A constant uninterrupted stream of content
Dopamine in the form of upvotes/likes/what have you
If these two things aren’t interupted, 90% of users won’t care.
Let’s be honest with ourselves - no, it won’t be wildly unpopular. This change affects very few people and the people still using Reddit at this point likely won’t care much, and I have doubt any future change would cause much outrage either.
Because think about this - who is actively complaining and gnashing their teeth about the continued downward spiral and still scrolling, posting, moderating there at this point? I’d love to believe more people would jump ship - but if it ever happened it would take a far larger-scope fuckup than anything we’ve seen so far.
There is a point where more users may bring more downsides than upsides - but we haven’t reached that point yet. There are still many many niche communities that have no equivalent here and starting them would never take off with the current number of people.
People that don’t check what community a post came from on their home feed and just upvote it if they like it.
Full disclosure: that was me just now until I opened the comments, realized, then took it back. It’s very easy to miss sometimes
sh.itjust.works would like a word
People like to think that they’ve made some far-reaching change with what little actually happened. The painful truth is: they didn’t. There wasn’t a big hit to the userbase, most people on Reddit already hated moderators and didn’t give a shit if they got removed, and overall people caved far too quickly (how many people folded instantly when their internet moderator position was threatened? (I say this as someone who was one of those moderators that flat out quit everything and nuked my account rather than continuing to toil for free for a corporation that hates me)).
The actually important thing that was accomplished by the protesting was platforms like Lemmy getting enough of a userbase boost to become stable - in the future, Lemmy and others may be able to act as viable alternatives to Reddit, because there’s already a community here (however small). Reddit will continue to enshittify, and people will continue to leave in small numbers that may escalate to big numbers if they commit a truly massive fuckup. The more heavy Reddit users (read: more invested, not necessarily more active) are small in number compared to the vast majority who lurk, don’t give a shit about any ongoing meta-drama, and don’t particularly care about any changes to the UI or browsing experience as long as they can still get an endless feed of memes.
Even if it hurts to realize this, it’s important to make sure people get this message beat into their skulls so that we aren’t stuck with a bunch of Redditors (derogatory) with over-inflated egos that think Reddit will bend over backward to appease them, then cave as soon as they receive literally any pushback from the corporation running the site.
the smell of heavily chlorinated water. i used to spend a heck of a lot of time at the pool when i was a kid, and where i live now there aren’t nearly as many pools, so it’s not something encountered often anymore.
I hope Lemmy eventually picks up more features like polls. I miss natively embedding polls.
Wouldn’t be the weirdest rebrand recently, honestly
I am subscribed to over 100 channels, ranging from daily uploads to 1 video every few months. Frankly I don’t need more stuff to watch. When I do want to find something new, it’s either a recommendation from a friend, something I saw on a different social media, or something I searched for myself deliberately.
This change isn’t a good thing, it’s Google trying to pressure more people into giving up more data, but the “threat” of them removing their algorithmically recommended content from my feed is not a threat at all, it’s a bonus if anything.
I’ve heard about Threads, which frankly I think will never pan out (they have no particular reason to encroach on this “market” given how small and usually anti-corporate it is here - I think they only mentioned ActivityPub as a buzzword), but Tumblr?
It is my opinion that no one should continue to be on Reddit at all. Accordingly, I deleted my account.
The people who think Reddit is still fine and hasn’t done anything wrong - well, I think they’re wrong, but it makes sense that they continue to use the site.
But the people who are upset with the site and think they’re acting shiftily and that things are getting worse - why do they stay? It seems hypocritical to me, past a point. It makes sense that they’d want to try and get the site to reverse course, but i don’t think writing FUCK SPEZ was ever intended to do that. So why stick around?
Because I deleted my account.
If only this effort was used to make a giant banner of some Reddit alternatives - Lemmy, yes, but even something else like Kbin, Tildes, Squabbles, etc., just anything to get people to actually move somewhere else and put a tiny crack in the face of Reddit’s titanic forum almost-monopoly.
How many of those people are still gonna be using the site though?
It doesn’t matter how loud you scream if you won’t actually do anything about it.
This is like refugees going back to their home country to have a parade about the country they fled too.
It’s more like going back to tell people where they can leave to somewhere else, that’s better. Personally I wouldn’t go back at all (nuked my account), but power to em for trying.
Was r/place expected to return before the reddit bull shit? Or is this a pr stunt to get people to forget the latest reddit shitery?
Datamining indicated this was supposed to take place on reddit’s birthday last month, but was postponed - likely because of the protests. I bet the figured it died down enough to go ahead, and were wrong.
At the least, put the screenshot and the link in the post. We can do both, people.
I was also a mod on Reddit, for about six years.
There are people as you describe. The rest of us hated them, too, because not only did we have the same grievances as normal users but, on top of that, they made all mods look bad by association and started (or perpetuated) a lot of the stereotypes users across the internet still have about internet mods.
Those people weren’t all mods, though. Even among those left at Reddit that won’t leave, I think a lot of mods just don’t care one way or the other and think they can keep moderating as they always have as the place starts to fracture. I think they’re wrong, which is why I left. Certainly all the worst powermods and terminally online folk won’t leave, for the reasons you do outline, but even now I don’t think it’s right to paint everyone with that broad a brush.
Not the point. Some mods bad, some mods good, and without mods entirely online spaces would be full of crap.
Because Reddit is in the unique position where a small amount of users can affect a vast swathe of their platform - moderators.
Most mods don’t care, by volume. The ones that do are often also the ones that are more active, more engaged, and more entwined with communities outside Reddit.
During the protest last year, polls come back favorably pretty much everywhere to shut down - but after the shutdown actually happened, a tidal wave of lurkers who never vote and never comment came out of the woodwork to complain and call it all stupid. Public opinion of all users is likely against practically any protest that could happen.
I don’t like it, but that’s how it is. The best realistic outcome is that a large contingent of content creators and more informed users leave the site - but how many of those are left that haven’t already vamoosed and are still willing to leave under some unknown worse circumstance?