tbh it’s probably not going to be too complicated to switch to 1.0. the current api is generated from lemmy-js-client, but 1.0 api has an official openapi file. if there is a decently usable openapi generator for go that would probably not be too complicated to swap in instead and adjust the api calls in mlmym code.
already did. it’s the same person running the infrastructure, although moderation of mstdn.party and mstdn.plus is handled by someone else.
we’ve since been in contact with the person running these services and the material has been taken down on lemmy.one, as well as lemmy.one closing down in three months.
we’re still discussing in our team how we will deal with this going forward and will be posting a new announcement about this in the coming days.
you can read https://lemmy.world/post/29550945 for our previous writeup about this.
it’s a combination of multiple issues.
lemmy federation has improved significantly over the past years, so if this was happening with lemmy instances today, especially online ones involved, this would be much less of an issue.
the original user posting this stuff was on a kbin instance. kbin/mbin still do not support federating bans of users. kbin is basically dead, mbin is tracking that here. when this was originally removed on kbin this never federated out to other platforms.
the next problem is that the original instance is no longer there, so attempting to address this with community bans from lemmys side is not working anymore if the user isn’t known to the instance anymore, as it can’t be refetched from the source. if the instances that the related communities are hosted on purged this user in the past they wouldn’t be able to federate out a community ban anymore.
another problem is that lemmy is typically configured in a way where it creates a local copy of thumbnails if no thumbnail url is provided by the source, which is what lead to a local copy of this material. in the end i consider this only a secondary issue, as while most people would rather not have this stored on their servers at all, if you allow media uploads you can never be 100% sure about the content uploaded to your server. this is therefore typically something where providers are expected to take action once they become aware of it. some providers are also taking preventative measures like scanning uploads, comparing to hash databases of known csam, etc. had the original instance ban or community bans been performed properly this would at least have removed public access to the stuff, as the media filenames are randomly generated and not guessable.
it’s generally not impossible to prevent stuff from returning to your instance once you have taken it down properly, but in cases where federation didn’t work, which could be for a wide range of reasons, including your instance being misconfigured during maintenance, your instance being defederated from an instance involved in the removal, and others, it may require local action. if i ban a user then no new content form that user is going to come to LW until they are unbanned again. this includes manually fetching posts or other content, so if i purge an old post of theirs the post wouldn’t be able to come back until the user gets unbanned.
the problem isn’t being able to see them in the thread but that you can’t open the user profile, so you don’t see if there are any comments.
certainly not something i’m willing to risk. defederated them now.
the stuff is still up on lemmy.one, months from the original report, with zero indication that they care about it in the slightest.
i’m tempted to add their domains to our automod (only removal), but i’ll discuss this in our team before doing so.
even if there are multiple people involved in the operation of this discourse forum, even this announcement is by jonah, who as far as i can tell is the head of these projects and also owner of the associated US companies. if this was something ran by a different team and they’d be able to separate themselves from jonah’s (in)actions then it might be a different story, but as it is right now, it seems that all these services related to PrivacyGuides are operated by the same entity.
Now for the other weird bit. If I enable secret mode, the website works fine.
most likely the bad 404 response was also cached in your web browser. try clearing your cache or doing a reload with ctrl+f5 or cmd+shift+r.
we had an issue related to incorrectly caching 404 responses earlier but that was a few hours before your post. it should already have been resolved when you posted this.
sorry about the late response, got a lot of stuff going on currently and it seemed like you got useful replies here already anyway when i checked before.
we currently have a rule in place that blocks traffic with too high of a threat score. this rule was implemented before i joined, i’ll have to check with the team about the original reason for this and if we want to relax this.
at least the error message should be improved if we can do that, i think that’s just returning a static message currently.
we’ll try to get the post out the coming week, at this time we’re roughly looking at updating late January.
you may have been thinking of https://poliverso.org/objects/0477a01e-1166-c773-5a67-70e129601762, which was neither lemmy devs, mastodon devs nor lemmy.world admins
2FA has been restored for all LW users that had it enabled before and didn’t reactivate it on their own since.
There will be an announcement posted later on explaining what happened.
edit: announcement is out: https://lemmy.world/post/18503967
this is a separate issue unrelated to the 0.19 update.
this was not a Lemmy bug.
Hi,
this was unfortunately an error on our end.
Please bear with us while we work on resolving this situation.
Us not upgrading has nothing to do with making a point.
We’re aiming to run a stable instance, which can come at the cost of delayed updates.
We didn’t update to 0.19.4, and a few weeks later 0.19.5 was released with a number of critical bugfixes.
0.19.6 will have several more fixes for issues introduced in 0.19.4+, such as a fix for remote moderators updating local communities, allowing admins to filter modlog entries by moderator, as well as some performance issues reported by other instances.
We usually wait for other instances to run the latest version for some time to allow bug reports to surface before we update ourselves.
It’s not automatic, admins have the option to ban with or without content removal.
Different instances deal with this differently and admins are also humans that sometimes make mistakes. Especially during holiday season there are frequently trolls running around with racist, transphobic or other offensive content. Sometimes they’re more obvious, sometimes they try to fly under the radar a bit by being less direct. In the end you’re at the mercy of the instance admins of the instance you signed up with and many instances will provide contact information to appeal bans.
Since this account was not a Lemmy.World account it’s not up to us to decide whether or not the user should be banned and whether their content should be removed.
If you’re referring to the post Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch?, their account was banned for trolling and all content associated with the account was removed.
They also had a number of other posts that seemed to be doing just fine, so it might be falling in the “stupid kid” category.
The post has since been restored by a community moderator, although the user’s account on lemmy.ml is still banned: https://lemmy.world/post/17593614
@PugJesus@lemmy.world, you might have been posting only for LW users for a while :-/
this is unfortunately correct for the time being.
while we still have aggressive rate limits in place to limit federation impact from kbin bugs, which started with the measures that @sunaurus@lemm.ee mentioned, this wouldn’t impact activities coming from lemmy.world towards kbin.social.
while kbin.social used to break down every now and then based on what i saw people comment, service was typically restored within a short period of time. more recently however, any time i’ve looked at kbin.social in the past couple weeks, it’s only been showing an error page. i suspect it may have been unavailable the entire time, not just at the times i looked at it. looking at our federation stats, the last successfully sent activity from lemmy.world to kbin.social was dated 2024-06-18 00:12:25 UTC, although the actual send date may have been later. successful is also not necessarily guaranteed, as some error codes might be misinterpreted as success due to how servers can be set up and how response status codes are interpreted on the sending side.
if activities sent from lemmy.world don’t reach kbin.social then the posts and comments won’t be relayed to other instances. this is generally an issue in activitypub when instances are down, as such “orphaned” (at the time) communities effectively become local-only communities, isolated islands on all instances that already know about them.
at this point, the last time we’ve received an activity submission (federation traffic) from kbin.social as on 18th of June, so it seems like it was working for some time on that day and has been broken since.
at the start of this month, @ernest@kbin.social (kbin.social owner, main kbin dev) said that he was going to hand over management of kbin.social to someone else, as he’s currently unable to take care of it. presumably this hasn’t happened yet.
I don’t see us going down anytime soon, and at current user numbers I don’t think there’s going to be a major difference in moderation workload with the influx of users compared to what we already have, but it really is not great for decentralization. We already try delegating the majority of moderation to community moderators where applicable, where on a lot of other instances the admin teams seem to be more involved in addressing community reports on admin level as well. For the most part we’re dealing only with instance level topics in the admin team and provide some additional tooling to improve report notifications to community mods. There are even various benefits from a moderation perspective when users are all local and not remote, as with federation a lot of signals that would allow various types of abuse are unfortunately lost. That said, I would still prefer if there were more stable and larger instances overall, while not having a single instance stand out as massively larger than any other one. Friendly “competition” is almost always beneficial for everyone involved.
lemm.ee being the second largest instance and the shutdown only being announced less than a month before is unfortunately also not something that gives people looking for a stable instance much confidence. I hope this won’t scare too many users away from Lemmy and that most will just find a new instance in the Fediverse.
Instance moderation and moderation in general are unfortunately tasks that can be very challenging at scale, even with just a few thousand users, especially when dealing with drama. It’s not really a surprise that there are somewhat frequently posts from larger instances looking for new admins, while older admins on the same instance are becoming less active. Even if people aren’t exhausted from their involvement, their circumstances in life may change, or they may no longer be interested in Lemmy as a platform in general, leading to a number of reasons why admins may not be as active as it seems when looking at the list of admins in an instance sidebar. It’s often a thankless job with a lot of things happening in the background to deal with spam, trolls and other issues, which most users won’t even see when done right.