• HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Respectfully to you, fuck that.

    I don’t hate Jews specifically, but fuck every single religious person. I am done with it. How many time do we need to see genocides or wars or just bombings that are solely motivated through religious indoctrination? You may say that they are misinterpreting the words of the Lord or whatever horseshit, but as far as I am concerned every interpretation is exactly as valid as the next because it is all make believe nonsense.

    Everyone is playing pretend and then get upset when some people use that to steer the “play” into FUCKING MURDER!

    MAYBE STOP PLAYING PRETEND EVERY FUCKING DAY YOU FUCKING MORONS!

    If anyone says that their worldview is shaped by their religious beliefs, it is my view that they are a danger to the public should they hold public office.

    Every. Single. Time. I don’t care what those beliefs are or what your motivations are. Religions are fucking toxic in every iteration.

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      13 days ago

      Lol gotta live the hypocrisy in being such a staunch atheist that you think you know objective truth but religious people don’t. Like secular beliefs aren’t narrative as well and like we can actually perceive objective reality through our limited subjected senses. Also, Jewish is not always religion. It’s also ethnicity. There are secular Jews. You claim religions are toxic, but your anti-religiousness seems to make you quite angry and toxic.

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        13 days ago

        If you can look around at the results of allowing religions to dominate society for thousands of years and tell me that you think it’s going well, or even that we have a good chance of surviving the century as a species, then I don’t think you are a fully functioning human being.

        I don’t know what the objective truth of the world is. But what I do know, is that that truth has never been ordained to earthly man by a burning fucking bush or whatever the fuck your particular religion dictates.

        Arguing over interpretations of the hallucinations had by uneducated people thousands of years ago is not just pointless, it promotes a level of ignorance worship that is highly corrosive to a functioning society.

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          13 days ago

          All forms of centralized hierarchical power are bad: capitalism, nation-state, and organized religion. Nothing wrong with decentralized, liberating spiritual beliefs.

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            13 days ago

            But those do not include organized religions that have holy books written about ancient hallucinations.

            Spiritualism is fine (generally) but it can still lead to delusional thinking. As in, verifiably false conclusions.

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              12 days ago

              It’s possible to believe in monotheist religion and scripture without supporting the centralized oppressive organization that exploits them.

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                  11 days ago

                  Have fun with the close minded elementary understanding

                  A Sufi Hymn to Awareness

                  Neither subject nor object, neither seer nor seen Awareness is a flame which glows into itself

                  For those who have the eyes, for those who wish to see It opens its heart and shows into itself

                  Neither here nor there, its home is nowhere Like a wind it blows and blows into itself

                  Beginning with a drop in each moment of Creation It soon becomes a river that flows into itself

                  From where does it come and to where does it go? Like a breath it comes and goes into itself

                  To nothing does it submit, 'cause nothing’s other than it To itself it bows, as it bows to itself

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                    11 days ago

                    How is you choosing to be selective and handpicking what you want to believe out of the vast and contradictory texts any different than those you criticize for doing the same with the materials for other reasons?

                    You’re maintaining the same core as those who use religion as an excuse for violence. You can’t be a part of it without being a part of it. Your imaginary friend is the exact same one as theirs.

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                  Sorry forgot you are the ultimate arbiter of truth and that I don’t exist.

                  A Sufi Hymn to Awareness

                  Neither subject nor object, neither seer nor seen Awareness is a flame which glows into itself

                  For those who have the eyes, for those who wish to see It opens its heart and shows into itself

                  Neither here nor there, its home is nowhere Like a wind it blows and blows into itself

                  Beginning with a drop in each moment of Creation It soon becomes a river that flows into itself

                  From where does it come and to where does it go? Like a breath it comes and goes into itself

                  To nothing does it submit, 'cause nothing’s other than it To itself it bows, as it bows to itself

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                    11 days ago

                    Your belief in the organization legitimizes dangerous and corrosive beliefs. It legitimizes the power structure that oppresses. It legitimizes the act of turning off your brain. Your adherence to its rules legitimizes even it’s more rabid and extreme flanks.

                    You cannot participate in organized religion without harming society.

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        12 days ago

        Could you at least pay your own damn taxes? Every religion. Why are WE forced to pay for YOU. Let’s start there, what do you think?

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          Tf you talking about? I pay taxes. I’m not a part of any church. I’m a Muslim who is anti-hierarchical organized religion.

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            10 days ago

            You claim religions are toxic, but your anti-religiousness seems to make you quite angry and toxic.

            My use of “your” was in response to “religions”, the topic of your last sentence.

            The pronoun always refers to the last subject… which wasn’t you personally.

            Also, please note that Muslim mosques don’t pay taxes, just like Catholic churches and Scientology and every other brand of religion; many more breaks than any non-profit.

            It’s a religion, you see, so that’s what the fuck I am talking about. Your mosque should pay property taxes et al just like everybody else (whether you personally attend it or not is irrelevant).

            Your mosque is already filthy rich. Enough. “Your” as in the mosque that is owned by those of your religion (Muslim), not you personally.