• ideonek@piefed.social
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    15 hours ago

    Come on, work being the sole source of community is the problem here. What are we even talking about?

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      49 minutes ago

      No one said “sole.” It’s about a sense of community between you and your coworkers, which is a very real and normal thing. It’s spelled out in the article very clearly:

      losing that sense of workplace community had a greater impact on childless men

      “Workplace community.”

      I’m a dad working remote and I love the benefits but I ALSO miss the sense of community with my coworkers which I used to get from lunches together, sharing the train ride home, or just working side by side at our desks.

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      15 hours ago

      Yes, but it’s also the most logical place. What other activity do you dedicate so much time to? Maybe sleeping but it’s hard to build a community around that.

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        12 hours ago

        According to my kids, candies are the most logical place to get most your nutritions from. Where else could you get so many calories?

        If most of your time at work is spent socializing, couldn’t you cut your work time and build your community elsewhere?

        If most of your time at work you spent on honest hard-work working, how much community are you really building?

        Cut you calories. Life doesn’t happen at work.

        • Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 hours ago

          Eh, I became a stay at home mom over the pandemic, and while I’ve never worked in an office, but on the shop floor, I do miss the shenanigans. But its almost like a trauma bond, where its like, hey, we’re all stuck here, best make the nest of it and try snd have fun while we are here.

          I’m fully isolated now, and at this point terrified of crowds, when i never was before.

          Not arguing at all people who can work remotely shouldn’t, they should, for a litter or reasons. But I do miss my coworkers from my employee owned factory where culture was held in high standard. Im also not arguing this should be the only place one finds community, I’m only saying, for a person like me, it helped sometimes to joke around on the new guy or collectively bitch about issues at work or hear other folks problems and offer advice or help when I could.

          We socialized outside of work too. I can’t get invited to a party, or a wedding, or anything if I literally don’t know anyone. I’ve only ever known how to make friends in structured environments. But that’s wierdo me.

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            10 hours ago

            No, I think that’s the fair take. But to me, it’s similar when people say “Studies may teach me a thing, but I’m glad I went there because I met all this people”… Yes, you spent X years there. You’d probably bound with someone over that time if it was a different place as well. It’s perfectly understandable to have a need for structure. I just wish that work isnt that sole source of structure in most people live.

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        12 hours ago

        It would be logical to work less and get our own community. A lot of people work hard all their lives and die soon after retirement. That’s not logical.

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        10 hours ago

        Quality over quantity.

        Great places to socialize are sports-clubs, social-clubs, volunteering, activism, religious communities…

        I’d much rather spend five hours a week distributed over two or three occasions with people i share interests with, than with people i share work with. Meanwhile at work i am mostly engaged in small talk, that is quite repetitive as i see the people every day and i have to guard what i can say and what i cannot say more than in other circles.