Video Title: Open Source People are Fighting to Kill Open Source Projects

My take; since the comments have buried it under the angry defense of Wayland and Freedesktop by trying to dismiss the video creator (who isn’t me).

I do think the video makes a pretty good point about how people who attack others for continuing X11 is very much violating the ethos of FOSS communities in general; and I have no doubts that if the claims made in the video are true; I think folks like Stallman would be kind of upset with people behaving that way because it only harms the FOSS community as a whole.

You may not agree with people who want to use X11 for their very niche use cases. That’s fine. But I do question any motives behind any kind of behavior that is not only ceasing all development on X11, but actively blocking and sabotaging others who want to work on X11 from doing so.

  • SpikesOtherDog@ani.social
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    7 days ago

    I think I was eyeballing it about a year ago and seeing that it was still experimental, but what isn’t. Also, I think I saw that some people had issues with yuzu on Wayland.

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      7 days ago

      Things have changed in the last year or so. This is about the next releases of distros, nobody’s going to go back and retrospectively remove X11 and Xwayland will continue to exist when needed.

      All the hubbub is because Gnome recently decided to drop support for launching X11 sessions from the login manager. Gnome’s login manager is Wayland based and Wayland handles handing off graphics to different users properly. With X11 you have to have ugly things like killing the login X server and then spawning a new X server as the new user among other things is ugly and unfixable without serious security issues.

      Wayland wasn’t stuck with design decisions that made sense almost 50 years ago in the '80s and does things far more sanely and with less complex code.

      Anyway at some point someone has to pull the plug and Gnome has done that. Many distros are built on Gnome so that’s that.

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        6 days ago

        KDE is working to do it also. They are untangling X11 from Kwin, rumor is it should be dropped in KDE7.