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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Biden signs bill criticized as “major expansion of warrantless surveillance”

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Biden signs bill criticized as “major expansion of warrantless surveillance”

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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FISA renewal requires more service providers to cooperate with government.
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    Rand Paul votes no on anything that allows the government to do anything. I doubt he even reads the bills.

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      I doubt he even reads the bills.

      To be fair it’s probably the same for Biden.

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      A principled stance is a principled stance.

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        All the people who wanted to maintain segregation (i.e. Rand’s father) had principled stances. Should we admire them?

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          What principle would lead someone to support segregation?

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            In Rand’s father’s case? Libertarian nonsense about not being forced by the big bad government to stop with the ‘whites only’ bullshit.

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              Ah. Free association is what it’d be called by libertarians. I see what you mean now.

              Was he against government-forced segregation?

              I’m kind of bad in these situations (from a libertarian perspective) because I tend to refuse to worry about things I like the outcome of.

              If you and I had incredibly similar views on how people should behave, and we both put time and money into achieving those outcomes, but I didn’t support using violence (libertarian reductionist view of government), does that mean I support things I’m ostensibly fighting personally?

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                He would have opposed the Civil Rights Act “because of the property rights element.” See? Principled stand.

                https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/91287-paul-says-he-would-have-opposed-1964-civil-rights-act/

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                  I’m talking pure theory/ethics now. What I’d support politically will vary.

                  I agree with free association and, to some degree, property rights. I don’t think my “yeah, fuck racists” stance is principled.

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                    Okay, but we aren’t talking about you.

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        Or a fanatical one.

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          Is consistency fanatical?

          I’d call it radical for sure.

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