“Experts in Europe warn that these devices are used to record strangers without their consent, possibly breaching EU law.”

“A small LED light is designed to indicate when recording is taking place, but RTBF’s investigators found that tutorials explaining how to conceal the indicator are abundant and easily accessible online.”

Sometimes I have a hard time deciding who I despise more, parasite Mark Zuckerberg or its witless hosts who keep using its products—yes, Zuck’s pronoun is it. Ban Ray-Ban, for frick’s sake.

  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 hours ago

    Because somehow those recordings being misused is less offensive than these recordings being misused.

    Honestly, the privacy aspect in public is completely out the window already. Anyone arguing that these are somehow worse than what already exists is either arguing in bad faith or misunderstands the current (previous?) state of things.

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      16 hours ago

      They’re not worse, but having yet another thing invading our privacy in public IS worse. No sense in giving up even more ground.

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        11 hours ago

        invading our privacy in public

        Stop and think about what you just said for a second. Privacy……in public. You have no privacy in public, those are opposites.

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          11 hours ago

          There’s degrees of privacy. People don’t deserve to be recorded 24/7 just because they happen to be outside.

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            They don’t “deserve” to, but it is not illegal if they are. If you’re in a public space you shouldn’t expect privacy……because you’re in a public place. That’s pretty obvious.

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              Something being legal doesn’t make it morally correct and the rest of us should oppose this shit in every way we can, not simply expect it.

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                7 hours ago

                Oppose what, that you can be filmed or photographed without explicit consent when you’re in public?

                So if I go to the Eiffel Tower, I have to go and ask the hundreds of other people there if they consent to me taking their photo simply because they’re in my photo? Or if I see a criminal breaking into a house, I have to ask them if I can take their photo/video if I want to report them and hand over my photos/video to the police?

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                  5 hours ago

                  creeps.

                  the same creeps who can’t understand what the problem is. creeps filming women and girls without permission or consent.

                  creeps like you apparently.

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                  Perhaps your future camera could automatically fog any individual that you haven’t received prior consent from.

                  And yes, I realise this idea has a number of technological requirements that may not exist yet, or cannot reliably exist ever, and requires the trusting of some authority in a world where noone of that esteem seem to be able to exist.

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      Difference being: we’re kind of powerless against government surveillance high up on a fence, but we can sanction the class traitor glassholes with an accidental elbow to the glasses and a clumsy step on them.

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        Seems like you’re giving a pass to government and corpos, while assaulting fellow citizens.

        I intend on getting whatever glasses eventually come out with an AR layer involved, camera or not. Doesn’t mean I’ll be constantly recording. In fact I’d likely almost never record anything.

        And apparently that means I deserve an elbow to the face.

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          For AR you need to be recording. If you are recording, it is being sent to Facebook servers. You accepted Facebook’s terms and conditions, not me.

          If you don’t want to be punched, you should advocate for laws that make the glasshole glasses ugly through non-avoidable methods of detecting if the glasses are recording.

          For example by requiring every glass hole glass to have a physical cover that physically covers the view of the camera, and it should be a bright color to easily see if it is covering the camera or not. The contour of the camera should be painted with an equally bright color, contrasting highly with the cover. So you can easily see if the cover is covering it completely.

          A led that turns on when recording is not enough, it’s very easy to remove a led from a device.

          If you want to not use glass hole glasses for evil, you should want it to be mandatory for other people to see if you’re using it for evil or not.

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          No, I am not giving a pass to government and corpos. But people recording others in public are henchmen of the very same fascist governments and yes, you deserve an elbow to the face if you record ANYONE (in more detail than within a large group of pedestrians) in public EVER without their explicit consent. Because you are - at least in civilized countries - violating privacy laws with the expectation that no one will sue you for it.

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            You’ve already stated that simply wearing them is assaultable. You have no way of knowing I’m recording, so you’ve just made the assumption that I am.

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            You’ll find that in almost every civilised country recording in public is 100% allowed. It’s what you do with the footage that has restrictions and laws around it.

            Privacy in public is not a thing. They’re literally antonyms.

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              is being done != is being allowed. don’t film people without explicit consent, or you deserve whatever happens to you as a consequence.

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                Sorry but the law is the law, and in public places you can and will be filmed and they don’t need your explicit consent. Which countries do you think it is illegal to film people in public places without explicit consent?

                If you don’t like it, don’t go out in public. Also don’t pretend like anyone here is going to do anything to anyone wearing them lol. Everyone is a hero behind their keyboard. There would be no consequences.

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      What are you even talking about? How is being filmed not worse than not being filmed, privacy-wise?